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kvh;470574; said:
Sorry, I don't understand, are you telling me I have way too many fish for a 90 gallon tank?

In looks alone, yes, I would say yes. Considering some of those fish will reach 10" while others may only get as large as 3, having 30-40 of them in only a 90gal tank IMO is too much. The density as well as frequency (or lack thereof) of waterchanges is what I would consider too overstocked.
 
straitjacketstar;471930; said:
In looks alone, yes, I would say yes. Considering some of those fish will reach 10" while others may only get as large as 3, having 30-40 of them in only a 90gal tank IMO is too much. The density as well as frequency (or lack thereof) of waterchanges is what I would consider too overstocked.


Really!? I do a 10% - 15% water change every other week meaning only 2 weeks goes by with out a water change, and I have an Ehiem canister filter that is rated for a 300 gallon tank I also have a plumbing system under the gravel with jets in strategic areas to keep water moving around on the base of the tank, hooked up to that plumbing system is a power head that moves 1200 gallons an hour, so when I do water changes and vacuum the gravel there is very little that gets vacuumed up. How long will it take for some of these fish to reach 10" I have had some of them for over 3 years now and the biggest ones are only about 4". I am planning on getting a 200 gallon for my next tank but not till next year.

A lot of things I have read on chiclids are over crowding a tank prevents aggression, is this a miss understood statement?
 
kvh;472157; said:
Really!? I do a 10% - 15% water change every other week meaning only 2 weeks goes by with out a water change, and I have an Ehiem canister filter that is rated for a 300 gallon tank I also have a plumbing system under the gravel with jets in strategic areas to keep water moving around on the base of the tank, hooked up to that plumbing system is a power head that moves 1200 gallons an hour, so when I do water changes and vacuum the gravel there is very little that gets vacuumed up. How long will it take for some of these fish to reach 10" I have had some of them for over 3 years now and the biggest ones are only about 4". I am planning on getting a 200 gallon for my next tank but not till next year.

A lot of things I have read on chiclids are over crowding a tank prevents aggression, is this a miss understood statement?

Crowding can be overdone very easily and misunderstood easily in terms of helping reduce aggression. Many times water quality and the long-term living conditions of the fish are compromised.
You have at least one Copadichromis borleyi and a possible Protomelas taeniolatus, both of which may reach up to 10". I don't know how long you've had them but if it turned out you've had them 2 or 3 years and the largest is only 4" I would consider them stunted. At 3 years of age mbuna should be at adult length and most medium-sized haps should be in their subadult-adult stages and of according size, for most of the fish you have average length is about 6" for males and 4-5 for females.
You should change water as much or as little as is necessary to keep nitrates at a minimum. If nitrates are over 20 there is not enough water being changed to remove excess nitrates. For the amount of fish you have and lack in volume and frequency you perform waterchanges I would assume nitrates to build up quickly and need to be removed quite often, but this also depends on how much and how often you feed the fish. Lightly fed fish don't put out as much waste as heavily and frequetly fed fish, therefore longer times between nitrate buildup.
If nitrates are high there is a problem and either there are too many fish or not enough upkeep of the water quality.
I personally prefer not to overcrowd, at least by most mbuna havers standards. An adult group of fish in proper number and sex ratios will be enough to curb aggression to a minimum and IMO gives less to worry about in water quality.
 
fsc46;474892; said:
At first I thought you were nuts. Then I found 2 females in one photo. I haven't seen a clear pic of a male. Did you?

Can you post one kvh

There might be males yet. Those borleyi didn't look any bigger than 3".
With my group I had one male pop up at barely 2". He died when I moved and I though I was stuck with all females. Now, at almost 4" I have a male just starting to show color.
Sure can take a while for some haps to color up.
 
gomezladdams;470851; said:
Great looking assortment of fish!If you were closer Id offer you some labeotrpheus trewavase mpanga red for the red color your looking for.a few groups in nj ny have auctions coming up always lots of mbuna at those thats the best place to get more unusual fish though it seems your doing pretty well already.

are u still interested in getting rid of them? where in NY do u live? how big are the fish?
 
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