Next animal on CITES list...?

[FishHeadSoup]

So Im free to keep it and/or sell it then?

I WILL BUY IT FROM YOU!!!

(and pay for shipping too )

 

[Oddball]

LOL whats the year on that thing? 1802?

Close...1948.

 

[FishHeadSoup]

Close...1948.

Wow, well that explains how you have such a huge collection of fish!

 

[Oddball]

See, thats where it get so confusing. So Im free to keep it and/or sell it then? Even though I have no proof it was in the states several years ago?

Or does that just apply to cites and not the Lacey Act? Can that one still screw me over?

For balas, there's not going to be any sweat. They're difficult to breed in captivity but not impossible. Count on availability going down and prices going up from independent breeders. Since there won't be any way to differentiate wild vs cultured origins from a hobbyist owned fish, they'll be easy to sell. The difficulty will be with anyone trying to import these fish to the US.

 

[concord]

is the CITES list in affect in Europe or the UK cause its legal to buy an asian here They are really really expensive though. I got two balas they are small 4" and they grow slw and if they are illegal in the future and harder to get :lol: i'm gonna get a bigger tank when i get my new room.

 

[twk1]

You don't need to do anything. The required documents are for EXPORTING from their native country and an IMPORT LICENSE at a US entry port. Once the FRT is bought by a hobbyist, there's no paperwork left to get. All the paperwork is just for the animal to be brought to the US.

So Does that mean that frt's are NOT illegal in the US? And if you wanted one, can you go and buy it without worrying about any problems??

 

[Oddball]

CITES categorizes the status of population levels of animal and plant species from their native countries. What makes asian aros illegal in the US is the Lacey Act enforcing a US ban on the trade of endangered species. FRTs are listed as threatened.
FRTs were never illegal in the US. CITES still lists FRTs as CITESII which allows trade in the species. Australia and Papua New Guinea have banned the trade in FRTs. The only country allowing the export of FRTs is Indonesia. Indonesia allows export of captive-hatched FRTs from government sanctioned hatching facilities. The Lacey Act states the US will ensure that FRTs arrivig at US Entry Ports have the proper permits issued by the government of the exporting country. Once allowed into the US, by customs and DFW, there is no further paperwork or permits needed.

 

[fishnthings]

take a picture with it, while holding a newspaper with the date clearly showing to prove you had it by a certain time!

but how can you prove it was that fish?

 

[twk1]

CITES categorizes the status of population levels of animal and plant species from their native countries. What makes asian aros illegal in the US is the Lacey Act enforcing a US ban on the trade of endangered species. FRTs are listed as threatened.
FRTs were never illegal in the US. CITES still lists FRTs as CITESII which allows trade in the species. Australia and Papua New Guinea have banned the trade in FRTs. The only country allowing the export of FRTs is Indonesia. Indonesia allows export of captive-hatched FRTs from government sanctioned hatching facilities. The Lacey Act states the US will ensure that FRTs arrivig at US Entry Ports have the proper permits issued by the government of the exporting country. Once allowed into the US, by customs and DFW, there is no further paperwork or permits needed.

Then How come in the buy and sell section, i remember that there was someone mentioning that frt's are banned in the US, and that it is illegal to buy or possess one?

 

[Oddball]

That's just the site protecting itself.