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As a Bengal fan I can tell you I'm glad to see gruden go I wasn't impressed with him but to each his own maybe he'll turn things around in Washington. As for Morris I was burned by him last season on my fantasy team so I'm not a fan lol. But he does have upside I can't argue that hell that's why I drafted him last season.

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Lol, you are the harshest Bengal fan ive ever met!


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Lol 20 years plus of mediocrity will do that to a guy

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Lol 20 years plus of mediocrity will do that to a guy

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Now you aren't even enjoying the mild success though? 3 straight playoffs appearance in THAT division is tough to do. You got Super Bowl winners, perennial playoff contenders. I'd consider the last few years a success


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Yea I am but at the same time going 0-4 under Marvin in the playoffs is getting old. I want to see them take that next step. But I'm optimistic they have an amazing core of young talent. My fear is knowing our owner Mike Brown he's not going to pay them all and we're not going to keep finding gems like Vontez Burfect and we don't sign free agents we build thru the draft and they've been very fortunate to get really good drafts last few seasons. I guess I'm just worried that our window of opportunity is only going to be open for a few seasons longer and I just don't have faith that Dalton will take us to a SB.

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Yea I am but at the same time going 0-4 under Marvin in the playoffs is getting old. I want to see them take that next step. But I'm optimistic they have an amazing core of young talent. My fear is knowing our owner Mike Brown he's not going to pay them all and we're not going to keep finding gems like Vontez Burfect and we don't sign free agents we build thru the draft and they've been very fortunate to get really good drafts last few seasons. I guess I'm just worried that our window of opportunity is only going to be open for a few seasons longer and I just don't have faith that Dalton will take us to a SB.

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TRUST ME when I tell you ,' ol VONTEZ will wear on your nerves ...he CAN be a great player , he can also get 3 unsportsmanlike penalties in 3 plays then blame everybody on the field but himself...in a close ballgame WHEN he does it , you will be ready to shoot him. As a SUN DEVIL watcher I got a full dose of that head case...lots of talent.... 0 smarts
 
Yea I am but at the same time going 0-4 under Marvin in the playoffs is getting old. I want to see them take that next step. But I'm optimistic they have an amazing core of young talent. My fear is knowing our owner Mike Brown he's not going to pay them all and we're not going to keep finding gems like Vontez Burfect and we don't sign free agents we build thru the draft and they've been very fortunate to get really good drafts last few seasons. I guess I'm just worried that our window of opportunity is only going to be open for a few seasons longer and I just don't have faith that Dalton will take us to a SB.

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Well, better luck this go around. Pitts and Baltimore wont be down forever so they do need to strike soon


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You think Cleveland is coming around or same old Cleveland? Lol I don't buy into Manziel but I don't wanna bet against him either

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You think Cleveland is coming around or same old Cleveland? Lol I don't buy into Manziel but I don't wanna bet against him either

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I think theyre coming around regardless of which QB. They were injury heavy last year. Theyre loaded in all the skill position and have a nasty defense that added more heavy hitters. I dont see why they cant be near or slightly above .500 with hoyer. You gotta look at the stats or game tape early in the season to gauge hoyer. Right after the trent richardson trade is where they peaked cuz of injuries.


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You think Cleveland is coming around or same old Cleveland? Lol I don't buy into Manziel but I don't wanna bet against him either

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I watched him last year... he's good but I don't think he can turn Cleveland around
 
Speaking of the afc north being good that raises a good topic for discussion.....which division is the best?

I'm going with NFC North I know most will say NFC west but I think st louis still holds them back too much in a top to bottom comparison. I think this season Detroit Chicago and Greenbay are best top three teams in any division and Minnesota with Zimm at the helm and Bridgewater who I believe to be best rookie QB they will be much improved...AP with a passing attack to take the pressure off scary.

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