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cheers t1/bones !
i hear what you say on the bala sharks i once had 6 that got to around 10 inch but as you said slow growth rate when you put them next to tin's .iv also had tin's in the past so may look at another fish of a simila style to try .
as for the drip feed system .well to start with once i read your post i thourt that it looks like a lot of hassle .my normal routine was a 110 ltr water but with treated water then pump out the old and pump in the new !.did a bit of reading up on the drip feed system and on this forum and others most people rate it. and i can see why .
so on the back of that had a think about the lay out in my house and its not ideal but i think if i dont go with the drip feed now i mite regret it later on ?
so this is were im at for the moment .
the tank and sump are in the living room and the kitchen is next room so im thinking that if i get one of the self taping tap's to fix to the water pipe under the sink then run the 6mm dia tube about 5meters around he kitchen through a hole in the wall up to the back of the tank into the filter then into the tank ?
the problem i have at the moment is the out take pipe ? i can only run it back through the hole in the wall back to waste pipe in the kitchen and at this point it needs to run from ground level up 30inches to go into a old washer machine waste pipe .
few q's
1, im thinking i need to work out a way of geting the out feed hose lower to as it gravity feed ?

2, what sort of ltr's per week do i need to put in the system ? (when my tank was fully stocked i was doing 25% weekly water changes around 300 ltrs )

3 as i under stand things at the moment this system is gravity feed (in and out)?

the way this system works looks great as far as i can see it saves messy water changes and as it's always running will help keep the hole system very very stable ?

big thank's ladds
this may add more to the cost of setup and time on the build but in the long run make life much better for me and the fish and possibly save me some cash.
cheers rich .
ps sorry for the loooooong post !!
 
I'm starting to think nothing long term is safe with adult rays

I had 3 large tinfoils for years with no issues

But made my shoal up to 7 they are not small 12" min

Over the last 2 months one had its gill plate ripped off and last night another had half its face chewed off
They both kept the eyes so maybe ok

If you look around you should find a few threads on drip systems


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loving the setup idears you guy's are giving and the drip system looks like its something thats a winner !!
tho from what you say i need to be very mindful of what mid water swimmers i keep ?
ps t1 are you one of the old guard from the ac site years back ?
 
I have been around years so yes it was prob me

Big tigers/dats work well as long as they are big 10" for smaller rays as the rays will outgrow them fast

Tigrinus cat also works well but again it needs to be 10" at the start


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& Of course Arowana work fantasitc with rays.

I don't mean to teach you to suck eggs - BUT, just be mindful that water that is waste needs to flow via gravity so needs to flow downwards to the nearest drain - this is what usually stops people i think, the layout of their home.

With regard to percentages - clean water is mixed in with dirty water and a mixture of both passes out the waste pipe in the sump - therefore a larger % is required to be water changed over the course of the week to be as effective as the 25% tank volume removed and replaced.

You can ofcourse fine tune this by measuring your nitrates and adjusting accordingly - i'd probably give 50% a whirl and see what results you get.

The water in - direct from the HMA is not gravity fed - it's fed by force (not very powerful) but should make it a fair distance should it be required to, it's all about planning the overflow from the sump carefully else you end up swimming to your tank.
 
You are right about water coming in
But I'm having great results with 2 drips 1 pure RO the other HMA water its very easy to do


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I had a HMA what I did was

Water out of HMA to a T the a flow tap the into the tank like a normal HMA drip

Then from the other bit of the T to a RO pump then to a RO membrane then to another RO membrane then to the tank

So 2 x drip pipes one pure RO one normal HMA water

This means you can run pure RO into the tank and not need to worry about the ph swings or the gh and kh dropping

Its working great

With two membranes you don't get as much waste water

With one RO membrane you get about 3 gal of waste for 1 gal of RO
With 2 RO membranes you get 1 gal RO 1 gal of waste


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ok as ever more good info :thumbsup:
cheers bones !i got what you say mate about the out feed pipe and having to get the pipe as low as possible .(lower than the sump out feed) but still dead keen to find away around the problem so im going to have a think on that one and see what i can come up with !
t1 you realy have been around a long time lol :jaw:
he he thank again guys
gona have a good think on the other stock i like the idear of some dats n tigers but im thinking that they are slow growers and to buy them in at a good size ££££ may well mean i get a kicking from the wife !!!:nutkick:
 
ok as ever more good info :thumbsup:
cheers bones !i got what you say mate about the out feed pipe and having to get the pipe as low as possible .(lower than the sump out feed) but still dead keen to find away around the problem so im going to have a think on that one and see what i can come up with !
t1 you realy have been around a long time lol :jaw:
he he thank again guys
gona have a good think on the other stock i like the idear of some dats n tigers but im thinking that they are slow growers and to buy them in at a good size ££££ may well mean i get a kicking from the wife !!!:nutkick:
 
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