Ian ...... perhaps you missed it, but this thread was started LAST October, by a member (whom I had personally conversed with on other subjects), and who hasn't even posted on MFK since last Dec. I commented to Mike because at that time there were only a few stores in his general area of Canada that even carried this food, which is why I suggested that he try a local forum to ask for others experience. NO ONE here would be able to give any input on something that they had never used, and had no access to. (at the time) Do you get it yet??? Mike, myself, and one other person (who had never used the food) were the only people who posted in the original discussion. At least I attempted to assist him - you did NOTHING.
Then almost a year later, along comes pongo, a close friend of the manufacturer, and off he goes on his mini advertising campaign. Even that dear pongo wouldn't let go, he had to bump it up yet again, and this time go on the offensive on his close friends behalf. So yeah, I felt the need to respond to his BS, and still do.
Don't like it? Too bad. I honestly don't give a flying fig what you like, or don't like. The only thing that I am "throwing in peoples faces" is some reality.
People are free to discuss anything they want on a public forum, but that doesn't mean that I am going to sit back while someone goes on & one posting pure BS about something they know almost nothing about, other than what their close friend (the manufacturer) has been feeding them. Someone who has never once had to deal with the red tape of shipping tropical fish food across state lines (or internationally), and who is so dense that they don't even realize that NATURAL food stuffs such as krill, herring, and even aquatic plant matter, can all fluctuate in their nutrient make up depending on the time of the season of when they are collected, and even exactly where they are collected. Below is just one small example of what I am referring to.
http://www.tharos.biz/update-on-krill-lipids-processing-other-compounds/
This is exactly why many large scale commercial feed mills will list a guaranteed analysis, and a typical analysis on their feed. These are natural food stuffs, that go through natural cycles of feeding, breeding, etc and ALL of this can & will effect their nutrient profile.
And I never said that NLS was 10% over what they have listed on their label, I said that no one (ie govt regulators) would care if it was - their job is to ensure that the
minimum standards listed on the label are in fact being met. Believe it or not, some companies cheat on those numbers, and their food gets rejected. I have seen reports from various state regulatory bodies where just that has happened. Some here would be surprised at some of the companies that have been caught with their pants down. It happens, whether on purpose or accident.
Some tropical food manufacturers list their products in the same manner (guaranteed/typical), although usualy not on the label itself. As an example, the following link shows a guaranteed analysis for Hikari Massivore, as well as a typical analysis.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=16872
Note that the fat content listed in the typical analysis is twice as high as what is found in the guaranteed analysis shown on their label. That, and the crude protein is actually 4% higher than what is stated on their label. Even their max ash content listed on the label is adjusted by 3% to ensure that they don't go over the guaranteed maximum percentage.
Maybe you know more about all of this scientific stuff than Hikari does, too, pongo?
This thread has become an idiotic waste of time for me, feed it, smoke it, use it as a sex toy, I really don't care.
