Not so messy fish food?

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IMHO I still say its the substrate(PFS). My guess is that during feeding, the geos are in a feeding frenzy and just tearing through the sand as fast as they can and just stirring up all the fine particulates. If this is the case, the cloudiness will go away after a year or so when all the fine particulates are eventually removed by filtration and w/c.
 
It could very well be the PFS, at this point anything is possible, but having kept multiple species of geos over PFS I have personally never experienced this, even after a feeding frenzy, and even after initially adding new sand. It certainly isn't a common occurrence with PFS, but is more commonly seen with play sand. Having said that I'm fairly certain that I wasn't using the same brand of PFS as the OP, so I certainly wouldn't rule it out.
 
i have noticed with spectrum my water gets cloudy.. i also use hakari bio gold . it goes away by the time i turn the lights back on.. when i used hikari gold and nothing else i never had an issue . i do huge water changes once a week. I use a the python though I fill with it and a drain with a separate gravel cleaner . I bet I do 100% or even a bit more i spend an hour on each tank hell i might even be doing 2 100 % water changes with the way I do it .I try to clean my gravel to where I get no dirt or waste in the cleaner when i am done. I am cutting down on how I do this as I think this may be part of the issue. my parameters are insane though nitrates 15ppm or less ph 7.0 nitrites 0 and ammonia 0 . my tap water comes out clean ph is 7. I really don't even need to treat my tap water . I should mention i currently am running a 125 with 2 rena xp 4's and 2 rena xp 3's,a 75 with a rena xp4 and a rena xp3 and a 20 gal grow out tank has a HOB and a rena xp2 lol i love to over filter :)
 
I use Leslie's Pool Filter Sand as far as the substrate brand goes. Picked it up from the local Leslie's dealer across from our Target. My daughters tanks used black diamond blasting media. Their tanks have no cloudiness ever, but dont have the bioload either and my tank isn't heavily planted like theirs (they read 0 nitrates it's so heavily planted).

The koralia 1500 doesn't help I guess either as it is constantly picking up the particulates that the fish pick up and throws it around the water column more. I'm going to try a few things over the next week or so, as mentioned in the thread, and see if I can pinpoint any thing that helps alleviate some of this junk.
 
Turns out it wasn't the food at all. It was just weird coincidence. Turns out it was the water changes. I was an idiot and left the filters running during changes. Someone on another forum mentioned to me that the Prime might not be hitting the tap water soon enough and as the filters suck in the water, the chlorinated water was causing some bacteria dieoff in the filters. I've since stopped the filters during water changes and this cloudiness during feedings has quit occurring.

I appreciate all the input that folks here gave.
 
I never shut my filters off, even during 50%+ water changes, and have never experienced any type of bacterial die off. That explanation doesn't make any sense to me as Prime reacts almost instantaneously with chlorine/chloramine, so it actually mixes with (and neutralizes) chlorine/chloramine more effectively when the filters are running, than when not running and little water is moving.

Either way, glad to hear that the problem is now resolved.
 
RD. said:
I never shut my filters off, even during 50%+ water changes, and have never experienced any type of bacterial die off. That explanation doesn't make any sense to me as Prime reacts almost instantaneously with chlorine/chloramine, so it actually mixes with (and neutralizes) chlorine/chloramine more effectively when the filters are running, than when not running and little water is moving.

Either way, glad to hear that the problem is now resolved.
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I don't know either. I always thought Prime was an instantaneous neutralizer as well. After all the suggestions that were made, this was the one that worked. As you said before, the biosystem was still just a few months old. Thanks again for your input. It certainly helped in narrowing things down. I made mention of your comment about the biosystem being young which prompted the other persons suggestion. Was something else going on? no clue. All is good now though :)
 
Almost every pellet food I've tried produced some particles when eaten by the fish. I guess if you raise your turnover rate of your filtration, that might help. I tend to over feed my fish when they are young and it always clouds the water temporarily.

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