Notorious Bastards

[Peanut_Power]

Here is a good shot of juv. lucius.

Lateral line from head to tail. Stripes ABOVE the lateral line. Humeral blotch behind pectoral, and NO spangles in tail, just a ringed ocelli.

Crenicichla lucius

At sucha small size though, its possible they might turn out to be what you paid for. So don't loose hope just yet. Either way, they are superb pikes!

 

[FSM]

The first two had a much more prominent striped pattern when I looked at them on the table.

Or maybe I'm mixed up? They look a lot less like cincta now than I remember.

Do juvenile cincta have a similar pattern to the adults?

 

[Peanut_Power]

Yup, the juv. and adult look pretty much the same. Plus they generally lack the humeral blotch, and have excessive spangles in the caudual, as well as the stripes go from belly to dorsal, instead of lateral line to dorsal.

Its still possible they could be cincta. Don't loose hope!

 

[HiImSean]

they seemed to have quite a bit of stripes at the auction. im pulling for ya jamie

 

[titansfever83]

LOL, thanks fellas! Guess I should have not been so nice trying to hurry and get out of peoples way. Next time I'll stand there holding the bag up for 10 minutes like most of the other folks did.

 

[BigPic]

nice pick ups! I have to say, I got a group of 10 blue cincta a long time ago and at 3 inches. . . they looked nothing like any other pike I had seen! we need some pics of them settled. . . the glimmer of shine in the tail in the first pic makes me hope for you - that is what made me buy them when I did, they were GLOWING on the fins I have never seen a picture that did them justice, especially the tail!

 

[titansfever83]

I'll try to get some soon. My camera is a P&S so I can't promise great pics.

They are starting to show a lot of red on the dorsal and tail fin now that they've settled in.

 

[its_an_obsession]

i think theres a shot that the first pics could be cincta. it has that look in its tail. i guess time will tell.

if i manage to breed my notos and ur still looking. i can always send some your way. time for me to get my RO unit as well. bank account is going to be hurting

 

[Peanut_Power]

Still 88% sure they are lucius. . .

Found some juv. pictures of cincta. . . they are close to the same size as the ones Jamie got.

Crenicichla cincta

 

[titansfever83]

Thanks Jer!

I'm still uncertain. I think my best bet is just to grow them out a little and try IDing them later. I will post a few vids later that I took with my P&S camera. There are vertical red bars/stripes on the tail and the top of the dorsal is also red. Really only visible to the naked eye, not sure if it will show up in the video.