Observation: Get off your high horses

[chrisdef15]

an alligator gar would never get that big neccesarilly....that is in the wild..

I think that was the point of his post. If your fish doesnt get as big as it does in the wild then maybe you shouldnt be looking after it because you arent doing much of a job.
ANY fish given enough space and clean water and enough food (which any good fishkeeper should give his fish) should get as big as it does in the wild.

 

[rallysman]

enough space and clean water and enough food (which any good fishkeeper should give his fish) should get as big as it does in the wild.

Or bigger. We should provide pristine water, an unlimited amount of food, and ample room. They don't always have the luxury of the first two in the wild.

 

[Zoodiver]

Agreed. I didn't say EVERY gar should be that big, but when people go out and buy the biggest of the big species, they should know what they are doing. Arapaima, alligator gar, pacu and sharks seem to be the big four. I know of very few people who have enclosures big enough for them at FULL ADULT SIZE. When we continue to buy up the babys and think that we'll move them somewhere once they are adults, that is wrong, too.

Most of the larger species live longer lives in captivity. They should be thriving.

 

[RadleyMiller]

Agreed. I didn't say EVERY gar should be that big, but when people go out and buy the biggest of the big species, they should know what they are doing. Arapaima, alligator gar, pacu and sharks seem to be the big four. I know of very few people who have enclosures big enough for them at FULL ADULT SIZE. When we continue to buy up the babys and think that we'll move them somewhere once they are adults, that is wrong, too.

Most of the larger species live longer lives in captivity. They should be thriving.

Or people like Matt, Nicky, or Em get calls all the time of people trying to donate them to the aquarium, or even worse they just leave them there. It isn't about people's egos, its about people being responsible.

 

[Oddball]

I see this situation all too often. I own a private hatchery. Yet, I've had 4 abandonments at my front door in buckets and/or boxes with hefty trash bags. None were fish I wanted and 2 were illegal in MS. I wound up Qing them then feeding them to my larger animals.

 

[davo]

just wondering, what were they oddball?

 

[guppy]

Here.... for something that really needs to stop being posted Over and over again in just about EVERY FRICKING GAR THREAD :

Thank you for your concern about the size of the fish but they all do not get this big and Jethro here is getting to be an annoying sight.

LMAO

 

[guppy]

Anyway, Benifica540, and dovii88? You do make a good point about getting flamed, and dissed, it should not happen,,,,but,
Please don't get to upset if people try to say that you are over stocking, you know it already, just say you know it and are readyto deal with it, (if you explain how you will do so this becomes a helpful thread, especially for those with smaller tanks), any info on how to constructively deal with fish that overgrow your tanks is helpful.
As for me I find someone ine the market for the max size fish you arer willing or able to support (don't expect a profit) or if unusual species or in a target group and you can plan about 6-12 months ahead, maybe an public aquarium. If you are willing to pay postage the large aquariums damaged by the hurricane will take almost any oddball or prime specimen that has not yet been replaced, you might even get a tax credit.

 

[Oddball]

just wondering, what were they oddball?

2 large Ps, an oscar with a hairlip, and a RB pacu that made my 30+ pound mata mata work HARD to get it down.

 

[Killerhap]

(random catfish pic)

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