Official 2008 NBA Playoffs Thread

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hamato_yoshii;1804869; said:
I do think he gets the most leeway, I actually think Dwayne Wade carries the ball more, and gets as many calls if not more.
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I agree. Once you've established yourself, your allowances get larger.
 
as they say never underestimate the heart of a champion, the biggest mistake NO made was to let it go to game 7..they were playing so good the first 2 games they looked unbeatable, they should have never let up..well thats the way the cookie crumbles..hope the Spurs train stops at L.A.

Go Lakers!!!!!!!
 
pdbrady;1805789; said:
Why is he not deserving? BECAUSE HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING! Plain and simple! I am being real. Pot calling the kettle black..... Not to mention, people who refer to themselves in third person aren't worried about making others better, they're worried about themselves. "A Lebron James team's never desperate"......seriously.....Just like all other players and teams we've talked about on here......I'll give you credit when you show me those rings. And don't say he doesn't have people around him. He's got a ring holder in Wallace, veteran in Smith, Big Z, 3 point threats in Wally, West, Gibson.....he's got help....
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You watch to much PTI and First Take, Ben Wallace a ring?:nilly: Are you crazy where was Ben in that game, Smith looks like a grandma with his knees all taped up ben*** style, Big Z don't even get me started on him, and Wally thinks to much before he shoots. Here's a skip line for you, "His starting cast SUCKS!" plain and simple man. Give him some actual quality players and I bet they'd be in the conf. finals right now. How about Boston's big three was more like big one in this series because one team had to commit them selves to guarding one player. If Lebron had a pierce or allen or ginobli or duncan you all would be singing his praises right now, that supporting cast isn't cutting it and it showed in that game 7. Tell me which players are more deserving of a ring Garnett, Iverson, Pierce, Allen I'll give them to you. Give me another 5 year player that deserves it more.
 
scubasteve06;1805878; said:
You watch to much PTI and First Take, Ben Wallace a ring?:nilly: Are you crazy where was Ben in that game, Smith looks like a grandma with his knees all taped up ben*** style, Big Z don't even get me started on him, and Wally thinks to much before he shoots. Here's a skip line for you, "His starting cast SUCKS!" plain and simple man. Give him some actual quality players and I bet they'd be in the conf. finals right now. How about Boston's big three was more like big one in this series because one team had to commit them selves to guarding one player. If Lebron had a pierce or allen or ginobli or duncan you all would be singing his praises right now, that supporting cast isn't cutting it and it showed in that game 7. Tell me which players are more deserving of a ring Garnett, Iverson, Pierce, Allen I'll give them to you. Give me another 5 year player that deserves it more.
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I'll agree that most of the supporting cast is not great, but Big Z is a very good player, the problem is Mike Brown doesn't know how to use him right with Lebron.
If he had a better supporting cast they may have beat Boston, or maybe Detroit, but that doesn't change the state of his game right now. His jumper is questionable, he carries the ball, his D is not great, and he won't take the time(yet) to learn how to post up. I think he will improve on all of these and be an unbelievable player. Currently though he does things on the court that no other player can do or has done, and he certainly is a scary player. I know I didn't want to see him in the Conf. Finals.
 
hamato_yoshii;1805908; said:
I'll agree that most of the supporting cast is not great, but Big Z is a very good player, the problem is Mike Brown doesn't know how to use him right with Lebron.
If he had a better supporting cast they may have beat Boston, or maybe Detroit, but that doesn't change the state of his game right now. His jumper is questionable, he carries the ball, his D is not great, and he won't take the time(yet) to learn how to post up. I think he will improve on all of these and be an unbelievable player. Currently though he does things on the court that no other player can do or has done, and he certainly is a scary player. I know I didn't want to see him in the Conf. Finals.
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All reasonable and I agree with all said. But I just hate it when people rag on a team after they lose and hear all the hype AFTER the fact and don't do their talking about the team while they are playing.
 
LeBron is better at his age than almost any player in history at the same age.....Learn up ;)...Paul pierce looked semi-retarded when he first came to the league....Dwight Howard, Jermaine O'Neil, Chauncey Billups, All had a HUGE learning curve....It's called DEVELOPEMENT....The LeBron haters will only morph their opinion to the level at which they "expect" he should be at.....The same thing happened to "J"....I remember when I was in second grade, reading a news paper, and it was headlined "Ball Hog" when the Bulls were having a bad year. They started to gel and the rest is history....LeBron has the best chance out of any player in the league to set the "new standard".....
 
bigspizz;1805949; said:
LeBron is better at his age than almost any player in history at the same age.....Learn up ;)...Paul pierce looked semi-retarded when he first came to the league....Dwight Howard, Jermaine O'Neil, Chauncey Billups, All had a HUGE learning curve....It's called DEVELOPEMENT....The LeBron haters will only morph their opinion to the level at which they "expect" he should be at.....The same thing happened to "J"....I remember when I was in second grade, reading a news paper, and it was headlined "Ball Hog" when the Bulls were having a bad year. They started to gel and the rest is history....LeBron has the best chance out of any player in the league to set the "new standard".....
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They will soon the light. BTW do you think Jordan just hands out contracts for his sneaker to anyone? I don't think he would have let Nike and Jordan brand run as far as they have without his say-so, I mean come on the man made the basketball shoe, and now has passed it down to the worthy candidate, as you can see he didn't give it to Kobe, I wonder why...;)
 
scubasteve06;1805924; said:
All reasonable and I agree with all said. But I just hate it when people rag on a team after they lose and hear all the hype AFTER the fact and don't do their talking about the team while they are playing.
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I have been consistent in my critique and praise of the Cav's and Lebron. Simply put even with what I would call his flaws, I hate playing against him, and I would take him in a heartbeat. But the earlier point stands, he has put himself on a pedestal with his attitude, play, and off-the-court stuff, and when you do that, the light is a heck of a lot brighter on you, and it's easier to see the flaws.
 
scubasteve06;1805963; said:
They will soon the light. BTW do you think Jordan just hands out contracts for his sneaker to anyone? I don't think he would have let Nike and Jordan brand run as far as they have without his say-so, I mean come on the man made the basketball shoe, and now has passed it down to the worthy candidate, as you can see he didn't give it to Kobe, I wonder why...;)
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I'm not sure Kobe wanted to be "on" Jordan, I think he wanted to separate himself.
 
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