Official 2008 NFL Thread. It's on!
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Bderick67;2599884; said:
When I think of the MVP though, I look at it like which player if you took them off that team would make the biggest (negative) impact. There's always an argument for Peyton, but I'm not sure Chad was the reason the Dolphins surged back. I'm actually a Penington fan, but I don't think he was the reason for their success, and if you put another QB out there that above average (and I would call Chad that) they would have still had a good year.
hamato_yoshii;2599897; said:
Ya gotta love the job Chad did this year. The plan worked well they do'nt ask him to do what he can't do. So he is able to be very efficent and low mistakes. Team MVP yes NFL MVP no.
Generally your NFL MVP is not only the MVP of his team but also has some up and above or remarkable season. I think that there was a lack of NFL MVP performances this year( this is the reason Manning wins). Everyone wants to say how this is Mannings best season ever. But he still is playing for the Colts and they actually have a defense in the top third of the league this year. This was no more then an average season for Manning.
I don't know in wins how much Payton was worth to his team this year. I do know that the Falcons would have been nowhere near the team they are this year without Turner. And not to bring up this guy again, but how many games do the Patsies win without Cassell.
Bderick67;2600065; said:
You just wont let the Cassell thing go will you!
jkI agree about Chad, and the team MVP part. I do like Chad a lot, and I'm glad to see him succeeding in Miami, because he had so many issues in NY.
About Peyton, first I agree there wasn't a clear cut winner, but I do believe that Peyton is one of the most valuable players in the league, and he is true difference maker. I think what gets overlooked because he doesn't always make the most spectacular plays, is his ability to manage the game, and how that affects their success.
Their defense is pretty good, but the only time I watched them closely this year was against my Lions, and we actually fared pretty well, but if I'm not mistaken, Sanders didn't play, and that makes a big difference.
The Turner thing is interesting, the problem with him (not his fault) is right now he's too low profile. Most people don't even know who he is. That shouldn't affect it, but it does.
Ya as you describe Michael Turner is kinda what I was getting at with the history thing. I wonder though how much effort these 50 writers put into this voting? What on earth would bring someone to give Kurt Warner consideration
Associated Press NFL MVP voting
Player Team Votes
Peyton Manning Colts 32
Chad Pennington Dolphins 4
Michael Turner Falcons 4
Adrian Peterson Vikings 3
James Harrison Steelers 3
Philip Rivers Chargers 2
Chris Johnson Titans 1
Kurt Warner Cardinals 1
Associated Press NFL MVP voting
Player Team Votes
Peyton Manning Colts 32
Chad Pennington Dolphins 4
Michael Turner Falcons 4
Adrian Peterson Vikings 3
James Harrison Steelers 3
Philip Rivers Chargers 2
Chris Johnson Titans 1
Kurt Warner Cardinals 1
The teams I am going for in the Playoffs:
AFC- Dolphins
NFC- Eagles, or Cardinals
Superbowl 43 will be in my favorite team's stadium raymound James Stadium.
AFC- Dolphins
NFC- Eagles, or Cardinals
Superbowl 43 will be in my favorite team's stadium raymound James Stadium.
Being a life long Colts fan it's easy for me to see how Peyton was chosen, but not to many have mentioned the fact that he didnt even see a football except on a television screen the entire preseason. Not to mention he went 17-17 two weeks ago and kinda sealed the whole deal. I think the biggest factor in the voting for me would have been the success that the colts had with virtually no running game at all and a mediocre defense that was plagued with injury's. For the Colts to go 8 straight wins on the road with all these factor's it kinda becomes a clear choice from the few that were on the list. All great players, not all league mvp's.
BTW Brian IF we get knocked out I'll be in the fins corner hard core after this years turn around.......
BTW Brian IF we get knocked out I'll be in the fins corner hard core after this years turn around.......
Bderick67;2600768; said:Ya as you describe Michael Turner is kinda what I was getting at with the history thing. I wonder though how much effort these 50 writers put into this voting? What on earth would bring someone to give Kurt Warner consideration
He was a definite candidate until the last three games. Just like Adrian Peterson and his slippery hands the last 3 games.
I have not watched a single Fins game this year but....is Chad Pennington more crucial than Ronnie Brown? It seemed like most of the highlights I saw this year involved Brown. But, like I said, I haven't really paid much attention to them.
