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You could be right. But I wont know. I tried to keep it vague because that’s the solid information I knew. Now there are rumors about that she actually “used karate moves and broke his legs”, and “Sent the kid to the hospital”, so the only true story I would know is from the principal/admin.
Hello; you gave me a lead in to another story. This not about a "special" student but about the way things became skewed over the years. There was a new student in my school and who was assigned to ride the school bus I drove. He was a big guy. One morning I pull up to the bus stop and find him beating up on a smaller boy. The smaller boy was his relative and was bloody. At school later that morning I took him into the office and paddled him. Paddling was still around.
I will condense the story a bit and skip to the part where he is cussing me the next day on the bus and making threats. I tell him another paddling is in order. Arriving at school he takes off down the road away from the school into the nearby coal camp. I report him gone to the principal office and go to my room on the second floor.
A few minutes later a different student warns me that student was coming to get me in the office. He had gone to the office brandishing a broken bottle but i was not there. I went to find him and we met on the stair landing. He indeed had a broken bottle and did try to cut me in front of many witnesses . I managed to stay away and side kicked his knee which took the fight out of him. He was subdued without anyone getting cut.

Turned out i had to have a hearing at the school board. No police charges were made as back then the police did not charge you if someone attacked you with a bottle. However his family went to the school board and they called a hearing. Turned out OK for me as there were plenty of witnesses to what happened. But the board was going to only give him a two week suspension and he would be back on my bus. My principal stood up and threatened publicly to resign if that student was allowed back in his school as the student had waved the broken bottle at him also. That worked and he was transferred to a different school. By the way that student had transferred into my school mid term from another school district because they kicked him out for behavior. He was staying with his Aunt in Harlan County KY when he attacked me, so it was not new behavior. Best school principal that year out of all the others over my 32 years as he stood up for the students to be safe and did not tolerate rowdy behavior.

My story only matches your post in that a karate kick was involved. Thing is i actually did kick a student in self defense. I could have done much more to the student but once the starch was out of him I did not do any more. To be clear I was grilled closely on how many times I had struck the student. Some on the board were looking for an excuse to make me into a villain.
An interesting thing happened some weeks later. I was loading groceries into my car outside of the local Krogers. I saw that former student walking toward me across the parking lot. I had bought some ten ounce Coca-Colas in glass bottles. I slipped one out and had it in my hand. The student's uncle got him and pulled him away so nothing happened. It would have been ironic had he started up with me again. I think he wound up leaving the County altogether.

I cannot say for sure but do figure the same situation would turn out bad for a teacher today. In the first place there would be no discipline on the school busses. In fact i did quit driving as i could not control bad behavior after a time. I was still responsible but had no control. I also figure somehow a student attacking a teacher would now days be blamed on the teacher. In fact my last year of teaching i was slightly physically assaulted by a high school student with a pencil. I called the school resource to press charges. I was pressured by that principal to let him move that student from my class. As i was filling in for a Biology teacher who became ill and could not finish the year I let it go.
 
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There's an autistic child in my son's class at school. He's not even that high up on the autistic spectrum, but from what I've heard from my son, and witnessed first hand (at school plays and the like) he can be a right handful.

He lives just up the road from us and once in a while, when he's had a particularly bad episode, his mum will bring him down to our house and he will sit in front of my 360 and watch the fish. It's as if all the angst and confusion going on in his head just miraculously subsides.

Discovering this complete about turn in his behaviour happened by pure accident. One Halloween his family came trick or treating at our house and the young autistic lad spotted my tank through the window as they walked up the drive. He was totally transfixed on the fish.

I don't believe they should be in mainstream schools where the teachers aren't trained to deal with their often disruptive behaviour. It puts a strain on the teachers, could also effect the quality of education the rest of the class are receiving, but most importantly it can't be good for the autistic child being in an environment where they aren't receiving the attention that their condition merits.
 
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There's an autistic child in my son's class at school. He's not even that high up on the autistic spectrum, but from what I've heard from my son, and witnessed first hand (at school plays and the like) he can be a right handful.

He lives just up the road from us and once in a while, when he's had a particularly bad episode, his mum will bring him down to our house and he will sit in front of my 360 and watch the fish. It's as if all the angst and confusion going on in his head just miraculously subsides.

Discovering this complete about turn in his behaviour happened by pure accident. One Halloween his family came trick or treating at our house and the young autistic lad spotted my tank through the window as they walked up the drive. He was totally transfixed on the fish.

I don't believe they should be in mainstream schools where the teachers aren't trained to deal with their often disruptive behaviour. It puts a strain on the teachers, could also effect the quality of education the rest of the class are receiving, but most importantly it can't be good for the autistic child being in an environment where they aren't receiving the attention that their condition merits.
In the us there are special classes inside of the main school that they attend.
 
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There's an autistic child in my son's class at school. He's not even that high up on the autistic spectrum, but from what I've heard from my son, and witnessed first hand (at school plays and the like) he can be a right handful.

He lives just up the road from us and once in a while, when he's had a particularly bad episode, his mum will bring him down to our house and he will sit in front of my 360 and watch the fish. It's as if all the angst and confusion going on in his head just miraculously subsides.

Discovering this complete about turn in his behaviour happened by pure accident. One Halloween his family came trick or treating at our house and the young autistic lad spotted my tank through the window as they walked up the drive. He was totally transfixed on the fish.

I don't believe they should be in mainstream schools where the teachers aren't trained to deal with their often disruptive behaviour. It puts a strain on the teachers, could also effect the quality of education the rest of the class are receiving, but most importantly it can't be good for the autistic child being in an environment where they aren't receiving the attention that their condition merits.
Hello; I had fish tanks in my classrooms. I stopped doing that. I took a teaching position far from home after i retired in KY. I took my fish with me and set up some tanks in a science classroom. I made the mistake of letting it be known the fish were my personal fish. Students put something in the tanks and killed all the fish.
 
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Hello; I had fish tanks in my classrooms. I stopped doing that. I took a teaching position far from home after i retired in KY. I took my fish with me and set up some tanks in a science classroom. I made the mistake of letting it be known the fish were my personal fish. Students put something in the tanks and killed all the fish.
Bloodthirsty bastards.
 
I don't believe they should be in mainstream schools where the teachers aren't trained to deal with their often disruptive behaviour.

I absolutely agree. My autistic son had a difficult time while attending public school.
My son was transfixed on running water when he was very young. He will sometimes look at the fish. I thank God my son can talk some don't.
 
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