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Bleach and you only need to do it once. How long did you try the salt? A lot of the symptoms your fish display could have been healed by salt. Did you get a liquid test kit and test the water yet? BTW my experience with quick cure it has always messup up my biofilter pretty bad. I hope your fish pull through, if you use and more treatments keep in mind its going to messup your biofilter so be ready.

I've blended 3 cups of instant ocean each day since the infection became rampant. The tanks have also had 40-50 percent water change each day before adding 3 cups of salt solution. All starting sunday

I only used quick cure on the 110G the first day it was infected(saturday) After a 40 percent water change and boost from 80-82 degrees with freshwater aquarium salt also added. Then Sunday the stacked 100 had the disease and the 110 had lost a fish. So it was clear the quick cure and temp boost hadn't worked as they have for me in the past.

I went with the salt by recommendation as an emergency treatment. Sadly it didn't work fast enough for most of my fish. My 110 looks dramatically better today and seems to be getting over things. The fish still have signs of infection but on sunday almost all of them looked on there death beds.

I would sight that a few fish seem unaffected by the break out so far(knock on wood):

Julidochromis Marlieri

Altolamprologus Calvus

tropheus duboisi

cynotilapia frontosa

My bichirs

And all my Labidochromis

Fish that died without any outward symptoms include:

OB peacock

Ctenochromis horei

Flying fox

thick skin


The monos where the first fish to come down with ich and it was all down hill from there. I'm just trying to reinstate a timeline to convey the sudden and unnatural onset of this outbreak. None of the "secondary" infections I saw are capable of wiping out a 100 gallon tank in 48 hours time.

I'm sorry I don't yet have a testing kit and probably won't get one in time to effect the process. I would pose this question to you guys. If indeed I tested it and found that ammonia or other toxin was high, what would you do? My reaction would be a water change, and I'm already doing that atleast once a day. How would testing now help me react to the situation?(not trying to be stubborn just inquiring)

Thanks for all the input guys.
 
I'm at a loss for why my 110 Gallon is recovering and only lost 3 fish.

My 100 gallon tanks though seem still to have major issues. The top lost 4 fish and still has 2 visibly ill animals. The bottom tank lost 6 OB peacocks, 6 thick skin haps, 4 red empress, 4 z rock, 2 geophagus, and 2 shell dwellers.

All 3 tanks are getting the same treatment and show the same disease and have similar stock(cichlids)

I have the salinty almost to the perscribed treatement(by the LFS owner) After doing my math (adding and dividing in order to determine total salt content) I'm at 6-7 cups of salt solution per tank, The goal is 10 per tank, full salt would be 20 per tank.

That severum is hanging on but he looks so bad. He is really important to me. Any treatment I could do that might help?

My synodontis is developing red spots, he has one on his eye. Those are the two big ones with visible external parasites. My shell dwellers in the bottom 100 (only fish left) don't show disease but are visibly weak and unhealthy and won't eat much if at all.
 
So the tank salinity is at 50 percent salinity. 10 cups of salt per tank. The severum still looks identical to the photo I showed you. If he's alive tonight I should have time to pick up a testing kit and some maracyn and maracyn 2. I want to setup a hospital tank because medding a 100 gallon tank is so expensive(over 10 dollars a day) I might just bump him and the synodontis to the bottom 100 and treat them and the remaining shell dwellers.
 
Last night was the first night I didn't pull bodies from the tanks. Salinity is 12 cups per tank. The severum seems to be getting better my synodontis is also on the up. My 110 is all but curred with only sores healing being the only sign that the tank was ever struck by disease. I'm out of salt solution so I won't change water tonight but I will tomorrow morning. I think a little more time in the salt will polish off the severums issues. With my bottom 100 gallon tanks population reduced from 30 something to 6 I'm still pretty torn up but I don't really know where to go from here in terms of treatment. Fish down there act sick but don't show physical signs of illness. They are lethargic and overly skitish/shy not to mention they haven't eaten in days. My severum won't eat either strangely.
 
Alright I had time this weekend and picked up 100 dollars worth of maracyn and maracy 2. Began treating on sunday after changing out 50 percent of the water. Salinity was at 12 cups of solution before the water change. After the change I treated the typical 1 pouch per 10 gallons on my top 100 (the last tank with visible disease) Tonight will be treatment #2 and I'll post how visible any recovery might be. If you wanna know why I held out treating with medicine it was because I literally couldn't afford to treat all 3 tanks with chemicals would have been about 400 dollars to do that and I don't have that kinda loose capital right now. Thanks for all your help and input so far. I'll keep you posted.
 
Columnaris is what killed my fish. I would imagine it was because of a mundane diet of Hikari pellets only. Your water can be pristine but as soon as one fish becomes stressed to the point of carrying the disease your tank will be wiped out. Out of 15 mbuna, 1 common pleco and 2 jewels the pleco and the jewels survived. All of the mbuna exhibited the same symptoms one after another and died within 4-8 hours from being infected.

Treatment:

Change water
Vacuum gravel
Add aquarium salt
Treat with copper sulfate or antibiotic
Discontinue carbon filtration during treatment

External infections should be treated with antibiotics or chemicals in the water. Copper sulfate, Acriflavine, Furan, and Terramycin may all be used externally to treat Columnaris. Terramycin has proven to be quite effective both as a bath, and when used to treat foods for internal infections. Salt may be added to the water to enhance gill function. Livebearers in particular will benefit from the addition of salt, however use caution when treating catfish, as many are sensitive to salt.

This is all you can do. Good luck.
 
Has the macryn helped? Ordering seachem meds online is alot cheaper and painless.
 
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