Omega One vs NLS

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You're spot on RD. Ive been in the pet trade for years.. and what you Quoted from the FDA has been known for years with the dog/cat breeders/enthusiests Ive met/helped ect... Its compleately misleading and sad the FDA sticks to these guidelines. makes you wonder about our own foods in the US eh?.. but thats a whole different can of worms.

Interesting how you did use the Omega to transition, neat trick i may try and use on some of my fish balking at takeing NLS.
 
I don't think that it's fair to place all of the blame on the FDA - consumers have all of the info available to them, if they choose to do a bit of homework. As an example, I knew about the dry matter vs wet matter basis of ingredients in dog & cat food over 30 yrs ago, as I chose to understand exactly what I was feeding my dogs.

But I agree, some of this can definitely be confusing to consumers, especially when one is bombarded with slick manufacturing propaganda.

Omega is a classic example, in so much as most of their "Fresh Fish from Alaska" turned out to be nothing more than plant processing waste. As far as I can tell, the only fish food still made in Alaska by Omega is their frozen food, Omega has been based in OH for several years now. Someone brought this up with Dennis Crews on his Omega forum a year or so ago, and shortly after their forum magically disappeared. It's been "under construction" ever since. :)

Certainly it's impossible for any consumer to ever know with 100% certainty what the inclusion rate is of each & every ingredient in any pet food, as no manufacturer in their right mind is going to list all of that information for public scrutiny. Having said that, if one knows what to look for it is possible to sort a lot of it out, and of course at the end of the day your fish will be the final testing ground. I've always suspected that Omega had a lot more starch in their food than what they would have everyone believe, and my recent experience with their marine formula certainly proved my suspicions to be true.

Every species of fish has a breaking point with regards to how much starch they can assimilate & utilize in their diet, the same thing applies to dogs. The rest just ends up as pollution in our tanks, or stored as fat by the fish. Either scenario isn't ideal for the long term health of any aquatic species.
 
That's why their diet shouldn't be JUST pellets, hence why pros like to supplement fresh fish and shrimp, that way regardless of whats in the pellets you know their still getting the essentials.

My piranhas get daily pellets and once a week rotation of talapia and shrimp.

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That's why their diet shouldn't be JUST pellets, hence why pros like to supplement fresh fish and shrimp, that way regardless of whats in the pellets you know their still getting the essentials.

My piranhas get daily pellets and once a week rotation of talapia and shrimp.

Go S. Vettel #1 rb8
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What pros would those be? lol

The vast majority of commercial aquaculture facilities feed pellets exclusively.

There's nothing wrong with supplementing with fresh/frozen foods, but all of the "essentials" can certainly be found in commercial foods.

About the only thing tilapia &/or shrimp will add to a quality pellet, is some extra protein & fat.
 
Breeders suppliers collectors anyone who knows what their doing. Not like theres a professional league of fk Lmao, just someone who knows what their doing.


Sorry rd forgot this was strictly your thread lol






Go S. Vettel #1 rb8
 
I know scores of breeders, suppliers, and collectors/exporters/importers that feed commercial food exclusively - including myself, and I'm pretty sure that I know what I'm doing.
 
RD. said:
I know scores of breeders, suppliers, and collectors/exporters/importers that feed commercial food exclusively - including myself, and I'm pretty sure that I know what I'm doing.
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Maybe piranhas are different, most everyone supplements fresh fish, and it cures their crave for meat and eachother. Never said you didn't know what ur doing.... not sure where u got that from.....

My rhom is exclusively NLS, o1 flakes, o1 Bw and talapia

I love NLS!




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Piranha are opportunistic generalist feeders, like most species of fish.

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.php?sid=83

While they will eat meat when prey is available, there's absolutely no nutritional reason why they would require tilapia, shrimp, or anything else in their diet if a quality pellet is fed. With most of the more carnivorous species of fish, often feeding them live, or even fresh/frozen meat can trigger more aggression when kept in a glass box, not less as you suggested.

Again, there's certainly nothing wrong with feeding additional foods/supplements to your fish, even live foods if that's what you prefer to do, but from a nutritional stand point for most species of fish being kept in captivity it's usually not necessary.
 
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