oscar growth rates !

[Hayabusa]

i was going to say that too but its actually leucistic but i think lutino is another word for it they aren't albino because of the orange on the belly and the black fins i have the exact same kind of fish and the leucistic, which i call whitey, is a little bigger but they are still both very small only 3-4 inches, and the tiger, magma, eats most of the pellets I put in the tank so maybe the leucistic fish are a little bigger or it could just be genetics

The black on the fins will fade as the fish matures, as I said above, both of mine were the same.

And mine also has an orange belly, still albino.

 

[Hayabusa]

beginneralex14 that's a lutino oscar not an albino. the albinos the other mfker's posted show the difference. albinos have red eyes as the main identifier but albinism affect only one type of pigment, while lucistic/luntino affects many.

as for growth rate how much each eats, genetics, exercise etc can affect growth rates.

Im 99% sure his is a normal albino, its more likely down to the photo than anything else.

 

[Toby_H]

Hayabusa... I do not mean to sound argummentative... but the white Oscars that are very common to the hobby are not albino, despite this very common misunderstanding. Please do not argue with those who are attempting to offer a more factual despription of them. If you feel they are incorrect please use some scientific logic to support your arguement...

For starters look up albino & leucism to gain a strong understanding of each... that alone should halt your argument...

 

[Freezekougra]

Maybe the growth of one of them was stunted before you bought it?

 

[Hayabusa]

Hayabusa... I do not mean to sound argummentative... but the white Oscars that are very common to the hobby are not albino, despite this very common misunderstanding. Please do not argue with those who are attempting to offer a more factual despription of them. If you feel they are incorrect please use some scientific logic to support your arguement...

For starters look up albino & leucism to gain a strong understanding of each... that alone should halt your argument...

I was always under the assumption that if they have pink eyes they are albino.

I stand corrected.

 

[Alexxxxsv14]

well i also thought it was lutino but the black on the fins seem to fade off as it grows and it has red eyes just doesnt show on the pik.

 

[Hayabusa]

well i also thought it was lutino but the black on the fins seem to fade off as it grows and it has red eyes just doesnt show on the pik.

Which is exactly what I said.... not sure why people have an issue with it, oh well.

Oh and to quote wikipedia, which I know isnt always accurate, but a good baseline it states...

A further difference between albinism and leucism is in eye colour. Due to the lack of melanin production in both the retinal pigmented epithelium (RPE) and iris, albinos typically have red eyes due to the underlying blood vessels showing through. In contrast, leucistic animals have normally coloured eyes. This is because the melanocytes of the RPE are not derived from the neural crest, instead an outpouching of the neural tube generates the optic cup which, in turn, forms the retina. As these cells are from an independent developmental origin, they are typically unaffected by the genetic cause of leucism.

So to sum up, if it has pink eyes it is albino.

I'm not seeing any "white" oscars pictured without pink/red eyes.

Please correct me if I am wrong, I am always willing to learn, just not seeing this scientific proof of them not being albino thats being touted.

Also copntrary to this statement "For starters look up albino & leucism to gain a strong understanding of each... that alone should halt your argument..." the more "understanding I get of each the more my arguement appears to hold true.

Please elaborate with your scientific knowlege, I wish to see what I am missing.

 

[Linemanbrad]

hayabusa...

he is talking about the oscar in the first pic being leucistic...

It clearly has blackish eyes and is kindof white but with black on it... beginneralex14's fish is leucistic...

 

[Hayabusa]

hayabusa...

he is talking about the oscar in the first pic being leucistic...

It clearly has blackish eyes and is kindof white but with black on it... beginneralex14's fish is leucistic...

It is clearly an albino, I can see that from the picture, not only that but beginneralex41 has already said it has RED EYES its just not showing up in the picture...... which is EXACTLY what I had already said.

Either people here are being arguementative for the sake of it, or dont know the difference between the two abnormalities.

Every Oscar pictured that is "white" is an albino, I'm not hearing any of this "scientific proof" that they arent.

As stated before, I am willing to learn, in keeping fish, and oscars for 15 years I still class myself as a fish n00b, but as far as I am concerned if it has pink/red eyes, its albino, I'm not seeing any "scientific prrof" that states otherwise.

Also if you examine the original pictures closely you can see its eyes ARE red/pink, and the guy who owns the fish, the OP, has stated as such.

Not sure why everyone is so insistent on trying to prove that a red/pink eyed oscar isnt an albino, I'm totaly confused tbh.