over aeration cause pH to raise??

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old set up on my tank 4 XL sponge filter 2 bubble disk and 3 2" stones all ripping the water at full force never had one fish die...
 
I pulled some books off the shelf. The only thing I discovered is there is lots I don't know about water.
 
A bubbler will not add a reasonable O2 to the water, but rather just cause surface agitation, which causes gas exchange at the surface. If higher O2 levels were to cause higher pH and hardness, then w/d filters would not be suitable for low pH low hardness tanks. In order to really cause a change, if it is actually possible, you would have to be injecting pure O2 into your tank, with no surface agitation, and have either an O2 reactor, or a great diffusion method to cause extremely elevated levels of O2.
 
I am agitating my tank with 2 xp3 and a xp4 with the outputs above the water surface so that the jet of water skims across the surface. This causes a lot of surface turbulence for about half of the tank (71" x 34" x 31"h). I also have 4 large sponge filters (hydrosponge 4) with 2 MJ1200 ph. I have not noticed any ill effects and my rays seem to be healthier.
 
my water here is real hard(liquid rock) in my tank with plants i have c02 the ph is lower in that tank than my other 3, water is also quite alkaline. i dont think aireation will hurt the fish,
 
WyldFya;1846762; said:
A bubbler will not add a reasonable O2 to the water, but rather just cause surface agitation, which causes gas exchange at the surface. If higher O2 levels were to cause higher pH and hardness, then w/d filters would not be suitable for low pH low hardness tanks. In order to really cause a change, if it is actually possible, you would have to be injecting pure O2 into your tank, with no surface agitation, and have either an O2 reactor, or a great diffusion method to cause extremely elevated levels of O2.







Ewurm says air stones/bubblers DO add o2 to the water...I was always under the impression that you posted, and wurm provided a link with a ton of info stating the opposition...Seems like even the facts are disputable in this hobby....
 
oscarluvr;1848970; said:
my water here is real hard(liquid rock) in my tank with plants i have c02 the ph is lower in that tank than my other 3, water is also quite alkaline. i dont think aireation will hurt the fish,

the only problem is in a tank with high co2 such as a planted tank and even then it is not massive .in a normal tank with no co2 injection you can not over aerate, as the water can only hold so much oxygen.
 
someone else mentioned this to me but i didnt know how much truth was in it

my whole tank is full of very fine bubbles

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IMO...i put just as much aireation in the tank to produce water movement from bottom to top. i never put as much as creating fine bubbles to get caught in the gills....and plus it makes the water look dirty.
 
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