Over-dosing Prime reduces oxygen??

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rallysman;3258793; said:
We have a winner!!

Sometimes I'll use less than recommended if I think I've previously over dosed. When you do a water change, it's dilution, not replacement.

I think it also breaks down after 48 hrs so it doesnt stay in there forever.
 
ward1066;3258827; said:
I think it also breaks down after 48 hrs so it doesnt stay in there forever.

If it doesn't evaporate, it's there.
 
Sab_Fan;3258766; said:
why do you say Prime is a waste of money? if it is, why use it at all ?

Chaitika;3258772; said:
I think he meant he knows he's wasting money by overdosing.....

^^^yes, prime is definitely not a waste of money when used correctly.


Chaitika;3258630; said:
Why not fire off an email to Seachem and find out right from the manufacturers?

http://www.seachem.com/Contact/Contact.html

since you made it so easy, I just did..thanks


bigspizz;3258777; said:
Seachem has stated that prime does in fact cause oxygen deprivation. It builds up as well...So if you use a little more every time, eventually you will have a problem on your hands. It is safer to use as directed....What emergency would cause for a larger dose? Treat the water, and you are fine. Adding more prime, will do nothing....They would recommend larger doses, so you buy more. Not to save the day.

Sounds like a well-informed bit of advice...I'm still waiting to see how Seachem answers my question though.
 
I think by products might hang around but if I were to wait a week and think it was safe to add chlormine water without adding some fresh prime that would be risky. I think a lot of people overdose because it is hard to belive that a tiny 10ml cap will do the job.
 
Per Seachem's website...

Prime will bind both ammonia and nitrite in a non toxic form for 24 hours, allowing the bacterial colony enough time to consume it before it harms fish...

In an uncycled tank or a tank that has had it's beneficial bacteria disturbed, an "emergency dose' of prime will only help for 24 hours...

The reason this benefit is added to prime is when chlamorine is broken down, it breaks into chlorine and ammonia... the chlorine is neutralized and what is left is essentially an ammonia spike. So Seachem added a chemical to bind the ammonia into a non toxic state until the existing bacterial colony can convert it into nitrite/nitrate...

It binds nitrite the same way...

This information can be verified in this thread on Seachems Customer Care forum - http://www.seachem.com/support/forums/archive/index.php/t-290.html

I'm still looking for a thread which mentions lowering oxygen levels...
 
When a solution is suspended(and has nothing to bind) it is not exposed, therefore the half life is inapplicable. It is still active.....As per my original post I stated "seachem has stated"...Are you assuming I made that up? I can find the thread with the E-mail attached with the rep's response..I thought my word would be enough here...I guess it is not, I will look up the thread.
 
bigspizz;3259002; said:
When a solution is suspended(and has nothing to bind) it is not exposed, therefore the half life is inapplicable. It is still active.....As per my original post I stated "seachem has stated"...Are you assuming I made that up? I can find the thread with the E-mail attached with the rep's response..I thought my word would be enough here...I guess it is not, I will look up the thread.


Don't waste your time BigSpizz... what you have said is confirmed in the post I linked above and reposted here ;)

nc_nutcase;3258860; said:
http://www.seachem.com/support/forums/archive/index.php/t-144.html

In response to another side debate above...

Tech Support CH - Prime biodegrades in 24 hours. Therefore there is no build up to worry about. You can safely dose Prime every day with out problems.
 
nc_nutcase;3259122; said:
Don't waste your time BigSpizz... what you have said is confirmed in the post I linked above and reposted here ;)





I wasted my time....lol I looked and could not find it. Thanks for the link, I missed that.
 
bigspizz;3259002; said:
When a solution is suspended(and has nothing to bind) it is not exposed, therefore the half life is inapplicable. It is still active.....As per my original post I stated "seachem has stated"...Are you assuming I made that up? I can find the thread with the E-mail attached with the rep's response..I thought my word would be enough here...I guess it is not, I will look up the thread.

I hope that wasn't directed at me...I didn't mean to imply I didn't believe you, simply that I still wanted to see what further information Seachem will provide on the subject. I'm still waiting on a response to the message I sent to them by the way. Either way I think I'm going to stop using extra prime when I do water changes.
 
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