Sorry for not being clearr but I'm just beginning my research. I was curious about the internal overflows. I was reading about the beananimal set-up and was wondering why I cant omit the box. Might not be feasible with that system but in regards to sump systems in general. A 3d bg is a necessity for me but if I have to allow 4" or whatever the box is plus the bg then a 180 wouldn't benefit me as a replacement for my 125 and a 225 wide would essentially be an overpriced 180. If I drilled the back or bottom with no box I can place the bg an inch or two of the back cutting wasted space in half