Ozinizer Questions

[skynoch]

I don't want to discourage you, but if you have to ask it probably isn't something you want to be getting advice on from some anonymous internet guys! Haha!

Truth is, they aren't worth the cost and effort since FW water changes are so simple.

To answer some of the questions, though, it doesn't really matter what type of skimmer since the skimmer won't work in FW anyway. You would be wasting money on a good one. I have a giant ozone reactor with a more giant carbon reactor that I purchased from here:

http://www.marinetechnical.com/page6.html



Still, I wouldn't even consider suggesting you get one for your situation. It is SOOOOOOOOO unnecessary if you just make water changes, AND it can be very dangerous if incorrectly used. I don't even use mine anymore.

Lol. No some random guy preaching wouldn't be what I'd want but I know there are some very educated and qualified people on here to answer some questions. I have looked at that reactor and it may be what I end up getting in the end.
This is going to be for a stingray tank and the rays cost a pretty penny not to mention one of the species are very hard to come by. Water clarity and extra oxygen in the water would not be my main concern. What I'm most interested in is the effect it has on killing bacteria compared to a uv sterilizer. The other effects are just bonus. I also like the effect it has on it's ability to aid in the biological side of filtration.
I know that the s/w skimmers don't do anything in freshwater but I'll still need a reaction chamber so not being a saltwater guy I was wondering if some would work better than others for this purpose.
Any input I get here is helpfull so please keep it coming. If anyone knows a good contact for this use please let me know also. I've inquired around where I live but get a lot of shoulder shrugs. lol
Thanks for the help guys

 

[JDS]

I would think a UV sterilizer would be better suited for your needs.

 

[Nic]

ozone is more effective than a UV.... skynoch let me compile all i have... there are several guys in asia using this on there breeding systems and i have somebody else looking into it as well...

 

[JDS]

ozone is more effective than a UV.... skynoch let me compile all i have... there are several guys in asia using this on there breeding systems and i have somebody else looking into it as well...

It mite be. but when you add up the time and cost plus the possible safety issues with using ozone is it worth it in % wise.

 

[cchhcc]

Plus the fact that in a closed system you shouldn't be too worried about bacteria or parasites. Provided you start with healthy fish, disease issues shouldn't exist at any significant level.

 

[skynoch]

ozone is more effective than a UV.... skynoch let me compile all i have... there are several guys in asia using this on there breeding systems and i have somebody else looking into it as well...

Thanks alot nic the info will be great. I'll be awaiting eagerly

 

[skynoch]

Plus the fact that in a closed system you shouldn't be too worried about bacteria or parasites. Provided you start with healthy fish, disease issues shouldn't exist at any significant level.

Your right within a closed system not to much should arise. When keeping rays you often have problems where a ray may stop eating and will have to introduce some live foods to stimulate feeding. There isn't alot known compared to other fish with rays and alot of medicine is harmful or usless to rays. Preventative measures are allways best.

 

[CHOMPERS]

Ozone has fallen out of favor with the SW people and reefers (probably because it isn't idiot proof). It requires some ongoing tweeking and careful observation. If you aren't the type that tinkers with things, then it probably isn't for you. My ozone generator produced safe levels for humans but it was way more than was needed in my tank. When it was run for the proper time period, the fish were fantastic. If I ran it too long, the fish showed signs of stress (this was using a large carbon bed). Use in fresh water requires a larger pump than for salt water.

There are other ways to get the same results. I'd start with Santa Monica's Algae Scrubber. It is freshwater compatible and doesn't require excessive tweeking. It also won't harm your fish.

 

[CHOMPERS]

By the way, if anyone has the need to PM me a question, please have the courtesy of using the spelling checker. And put down the beer. Some of you have really murdered the English written language in this thread.

 

[skynoch]

Ozone has fallen out of favor with the SW people and reefers (probably because it isn't idiot proof). It requires some ongoing tweeking and careful observation. If you aren't the type that tinkers with things, then it probably isn't for you. My ozone generator produced safe levels for humans but it was way more than was needed in my tank. When it was run for the proper time period, the fish were fantastic. If I ran it too long, the fish showed signs of stress (this was using a large carbon bed). Use in fresh water requires a larger pump than for salt water.

There are other ways to get the same results. I'd start with Santa Monica's Algae Scrubber. It is freshwater compatible and doesn't require excessive tweeking. It also won't harm your fish.

Okay I was hoping you would jump in here. Now if your using a controller would it not detect a high orp level and shut down your ozonizer? I do realize the probe will need replacing and the unit calibrated to be accurate. I was also wondering how quickly your orp level had increased, was it deadly over a 24 hr period or a 1 hr period. Now if you can set your ozone output would you not be able to tweek like you stated the output so it would take a long period to become deadly? I've only done some reading and never used one so somone with practical experience like yourself is very helpful.