they are clearly orinos. anyone who has grwn one out before should know. they are in the stage where they get the snake skin patterns all over the body.. stripes you are definately wrong. you can also notice the headshape. also in the before pics you can see the dots that look nothing like monos...I've grown out a couple of orinos from brian and they turned out just like that ... maybe fishrmann will chime in an help with i.d but im pretty sure its orinos 99.9 percent sure!!