P. melanurus photos

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No, there is never a stupid question when trying to find out more about a species of cichlid. :)

I think you maybe refering to the 'Synomyns' and 'Taxonomic' section where it states the confirmation of type locality of 'Cichlasoma' synspilus by (McMahan, 2011) Other than that i'm not sure where you mean.

Simply in a nutshell, synspilus is a junior synomyn of melanurus. The oldest described fish in this case is melanurus, so as always will prevail over the name synspilus.

Another example. If zonatus and guttulatus were found to be the same species, then guttulatus would become the described name as it is the oldest described fish.
 
Very nice Synspilum you have there.....I have some from Belize and some from Guatemala....(difference is one species has a red head and the other has a purple head)
your looks allot like mine......my Melanurus have a longer body and have strong orange in them........I don't know why people keep changing names of things(makes it all so
confusing).....go to search page on this forum and type in......V/P Melanurus........
then lets talk...........take care..

that's not my video but mine are identical....
will post later.........
 
my Melanurus have a longer body and have strong orange in them........I don't know why people keep changing names of things(makes it all so
confusing).....g.

Melanurus was very loosely described in the first place. For many years experts have always believed they were the same species anyway.

What you are describing is called variability which is very common with this species and many other different cichlids. Remember, Don Conkel describes a orange coloured variation of synspilus found in Belize. The orange pigment could simply be put down to dietry requirements in the wild. Evolution is a wonderful thing.

I don't really see it as being confusing, to me it's simply progress, what used to be synspilus are now called melanurus. :) These cichlids are described as 'New World', there's still much research to be done. Remeber, we still have around 12 species of cichlid still pending a suitable genus.

I think this is one of the only forums i use that hasn't adopted the new name change and still uses the synspilus name. A shame really as there are many ethusiastic fish keepers here. Learning the fish's correct name is very important imo. ;)

Perhaps if the popular vendours like Rapps changed the names on the stock list, then it may help. But then again, as you mention, it could confuse?? :?
 
Well Nutty don't worry you've gotten through to me, from now on I will refer to them as Melanurus now that I've been educated lol.
I agree I was looking in the wrong section like you said I agree that there is a huge amount of variation in cichlids especially the Geophagus type cichlids. It's interesting to see whats considered a variant as apposed to a species.
Thanks for the Info Nutty hopefully everyone will give it a read!
 
No problem, but i have already explained it in another thread, lol.

Just to be quick, the paper: Paraneetroplus synspilus is a Junior Synonym of Paraneetroplus melanurus (Teleostei: Cichlidae)
CALEB D. MCMAHAN, CHRISTOPHER M. MURRAY, AARON D. GEHEBER, CHRISTOPHER D. BOECKMAN & KYLE R. PILLER (USA)

Zootaxa 2833: 1–14 (27 Apr. 2011) Accepted: 9 Mar. 2011

And CRC species profile update: http://www.cichlidae.com/gallery/species.php?id=235

Anyone reading can find all the infomation there.



That is a pair of C. istlanum with fry. I'll post some photos later.

Thanks for the info! So many people on here corrected me saying that paraneetroplus synspilus is vieja synspilus in a thread I started. I knew the sp. was reclassified, and this confirms.
Very nice pair!
 
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