I see photos of F7 that seem to have lost none of their morphological traits - am I misinformed? Fibbed-to?
If so, are they erring into "affordable" range?
If so, are they erring into "affordable" range?
P. scalare red-shoulder "Rio Manacapuru" non-wild morphology?
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I'm told this/these are F7 from wild, fourth breeding from this guy (acquired at F3). Considering how every other fish seems to fade with from-wild generation, I'm... skeptical. I might expect some fade from line-breeding, too.
If the red color is a genetic trait I don’t see why it would fade as long as the lines are kept pure. Rotkeil severums are supposedly a naturally-occurring fish but I have some that have been tank-bred for 15 years and they still produce juveniles with bright red necks.
I think your skepticism is based on the misunderstanding that wild-type morphological characteristics that are attractive to hobbyists becomes "watered down" through captive breeding generations... where an F1 fish is less colorful than an a wild one... and an F2 fish is less colorful than an F1 one, etc.
I doesn't work that way and, in the case of angelfish, often just the opposite. Selective breeding - intentional or otherwise, actually starting with which fish are pulled from the wild and exported - can enhance hobbyist-desired characteristics.
I doesn't work that way and, in the case of angelfish, often just the opposite. Selective breeding - intentional or otherwise, actually starting with which fish are pulled from the wild and exported - can enhance hobbyist-desired characteristics.
Certainly,
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dogofwar
, but you would agree with me that (artificial) selection works both ways & without some care for line/inbreeding, poorer qualities persisting (contrary to wild/evolutionary processes) etc., the quality of wild traits can and often does fade. P.altum apparently loses those crisp lines within a generation or two, farmed silver arowana are considered lesser etc.
Now, to counter my own thought and bolster yours, last week I went to the big-city (first time since COVID) and found some lovely high-body angels that some part-time breeder has either lucked-out or actively cultured from the usual local "muddy" stubby stock. It took some clever network, and I brought home four
Now, to counter my own thought and bolster yours, last week I went to the big-city (first time since COVID) and found some lovely high-body angels that some part-time breeder has either lucked-out or actively cultured from the usual local "muddy" stubby stock. It took some clever network, and I brought home four