Particulate/Clarity Problem

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cubs fan

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I have a 240g 8'x2'x2' tank and it's being filtered by a wet/dry sump. There are dual overflows that obviously only skim the surface of the tank. I keep frontosa, tricoti, and clown loaches and I'm currently having a problem with water clarity. Obviously, I need mechanical filtration. The problem is: the tank is acrylic and there are only 3 holes on the top of the tank eliminating the option for HOB filters. In order to run a canister filter I'd have to either cut a hole in my acrylic or run the tubing very awkwardly (snake-like around my top holes).

What would be my best option? I want CRYSTAL clear water.
 
I would add a filter floss into your sump somewhere. I use quilt batting in all my setups and it works great! Do you use filter socks on you over flow drains?
 
I haven't used any form of filter socks or anything in the sump. I'll give that a try. Should I go with 50 micron or will that clog too often?

I think i'm just going to use a circle cutter and cut a hole into the top of my tank for the inlet of an FX5 and route the outlet to the sump. Any thoughts?
 
I would do a 200 for clear water. It will require maintenance thogh. I would not cut holes for a fx5 if you only want clear water. There are Diatom filters that will help you but try the floss or micron sock first. It is cheep and very affective!
 
Get a uv sterilizer your water will be crispy in no time
 
Should I go with 50 micron or will that clog too often?

It could, but that means it`s pulling all the particulate out.
Should reach a point where it will not need change/cleaning at anything like when first used.
Smaller the sieve size, the cleaner the water,eh.
You can get micron rated pads as well as socks.
Nothings free, not even crystal clear water.
You will have to keep an eye on the sock/media and change often to start.
 
x2 for socks and floss. Why go through all the hassle of hole drilling and the expense of an fx5 when you can just add a sock and/or some floss to your sump set up? You can always put a u v on it, which will help as well, but that won't help with the particulate waste in the water.
 
cubs fan;4690390; said:
I have a 240g 8'x2'x2' tank and it's being filtered by a wet/dry sump. There are dual overflows that obviously only skim the surface of the tank. I keep frontosa, tricoti, and clown loaches and I'm currently having a problem with water clarity. Obviously, I need mechanical filtration. The problem is: the tank is acrylic and there are only 3 holes on the top of the tank eliminating the option for HOB filters. In order to run a canister filter I'd have to either cut a hole in my acrylic or run the tubing very awkwardly (snake-like around my top holes).

What would be my best option? I want CRYSTAL clear water.

You actually have a lot of options.

Are you using prefilter sponges in your overflow boxes?
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A hole saw will very easily cut holes in the top of your tank should you decide to go that way. I was scared when we made four extra holes in the top of our tank, but it was quick and easy. Two of the holes were for an FX-5 uptake and return lines

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At the very least, put prefilter sponges in the bottom of your overflow boxes and a filter sox and more filter floss in your wet/dry filter.

Check out Xander's filtration: He has a filter sock in his overflow box which feeds his Eheim filter. Notice that he has to change the sock every couple of days.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375939

Here's a radical suggestion that will allow you to have a canister filter and a wet-dry filter without drilling extra holes. (I'm assuming the holes on top of your tank are for return lines from the wet/dry filter)---Use only one overflow box for the wet/dry, and use the other overflow box for a set up like Xanders and use one of the exising holes for the FX-5 return. On our 300 gallon tank, we are only using one overflow box to feed our wet/dry filter. The other overflow box was plugged shut and never used. We have ample biological filtration using just the one overflow box.

Ideally: sponge prefilters in the overflow boxes, filter sock in the wet/dry filter with more filter floss added to the wet/dry; two more holes in the top of the tank for a good canister filter. You can also add a UV sterilizer to the return line of the FX-5 (just make sure the recommended flow rate matches the flow rate of your canister filter) The UV sterilizer will not help with particulates.

A canister filter will provide redundant filtration for your system. I live in an area with frequent power outages which can last for hours. Should the power go off at 1 am, I have to add water to the tank to get the bio balls submerged in the wet/dry filter. Having a secondary biological filtration source is like an insurance policy.
 
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