Pbass Water Chemistry

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jimmie1974

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Some of you have already responded to my Rapps Brokopondo issues I had, I'm starting a new thread because I need answers and perhaps alittle further education after 10 years raising cichla.

Alright, I am totally confused. I've been in this hobby for 10 years rasing cichla. I go to my LFS last week after losing the broko's. I'm told my PH is low 6.2-6.5 range. Nitrates 40 ppm, everything else checks out fine. Aquarium Center, alot of MFK in PA and NJ know of this place. So I raise it over 3 days to 7.2. I now have users on here telling me it's too high at 7.2, and I'm not bashing anybody, just confused. I used Amqul Plus to rid of the nitrates, nitrites and ammonia over another period of 4 days which was suggested by LFS. I use API 5 in 1 test strips for my water test, nitrates are still coming up as 40 ppm maybe even alittle higher right to the date.
I was also told that doing water changes more then 2x aweek, I'm removing my bacteria levels from the tank, a 125. I always thought the bacteria lived in the filter itself, that its okay to change carbon, etc. but never to scrub the insides of the filter out.
They said the bacteria is in the gravel ??? Being in this 10 years, I've had my share of problems, but I also lack knowledge when it comes to water chemistry, etc.
My belief, is these fish live in acidic waters, so a PH of 6.2-6.5 really isnt bad at all. But to be told it is too low, and by others here that 7.2 is too high, I am just totally confused. And if it's true that after water changes I need to add more live bacteria, which runs at $22 a bottle and only treats 75 gallons, then I'm going to be looking at $44 every week just to maintain a bacteria colony in my tank? Is this true? I also spoke with Jeff about the incident, and was told by him that 40 ppm isn't a life threat to these fish, then WTF.....I need someone who has a few minutes to educate me abit more. What should my PH be roughly, and just answer some questions I've asked.
This is not targeted at anybodies responses to me, I appreciated all of the comments, just want a honest explanations or answers, maybe then I can discover the problem. Thanks !!!
 
I wasn't aware that Amquel would remove nitrates and nitrites from a system but I have never tried thge stuff so I can't really speak on it...There is some ammount of bacteria in your gravel as it exists on most surfaces inside of your tank..I also have lost my share of young cichla mostly to water issues and I've learned the hard way that young bass are not very forgiving of sub par water conditions.I've dealt with my baby brocks getting ich and fungus problems and I even have one beauty that has one eye that I suspect is a result of my past lazyness with water changes.
 
according to Steve at Aquarium Center, yes. He himself went to the isle and grabbed it. Stuff wasn't that cheap either for the large bottle. Also says it can remove oxygen levels in the tank, so I added an aerator as suggested. How's things Keith ?
And as far as my older Broko's having HITH, didnt I just see someone post something about carbon possibly being a major cause to HITH?
 
Just checked my water and its as follows :

ph 7.0

ammonia 0.0 (great)

nitrites 1.5 (a little high)

nitrates 10 (not bad)

temp 84.5

Treating for ich so my temp is still rising to my heater setting of 86.

So far all my fish including my tank raised peacock bass and brokopondo peacock bass are doing great.

As far as I'm concerned having a zero reading for ammonia , nitrites , nitrates and neutral 7.0 ph with an 80-82 degree temp along with a little aquarium salt should be perfect for what we have.

I will say peacock bass can be sensitive as I have lost a couple 3.5 inchers in the past with ideal water conditions. Unfortunatly it can be hit or miss I think.
 
I keep my tankwater around 7.0 and as far as bacteria goes,you should not have to keep buying bottles of liquid if you have good enough biological filtration.Nothing can really compare or compete with good filtration and a good water change schedule..What's your filter system?
 
I have an aqua-clear 110 with fluval brand bio-max pellets , ammonia bag with carbon. This is for a 75 gallon tank.

I just did a large water change 3 nights ago and I plan on doing a gravel vac with a 32 gallons change tonight.

Trying to lower the nitrites and nitrates but most importantly suck up the ich trophonts in the gravel before they explode into more free swimmers.

All I do is treat the new water with conditioner , add in nite out 2 , and aqua-sol coppersalt portioned as per gallons replacing.

Water changes are the best therapy. Clean oxygenated water.
 
N.Y.Jetsfan;4702676; said:
I have an aqua-clear 110 with fluval brand bio-max pellets , ammonia bag with carbon. This is for a 75 gallon tank.

I just did a large water change 3 nights ago and I plan on doing a gravel vac with a 32 gallons change tonight.

Trying to lower the nitrites and nitrates but most importantly suck up the ich trophonts in the gravel before they explode into more free swimmers.
I was actually asking Jimmie about his filtration but that's cool,I've some for you also...It sounds as if you did'nt do a gravel vac when you did the large change 3 nights ago so do you not gravel vac each time you do a change?I've been thinking about getting a UV system to kill off any free swimming parasites in the water.Have you ever thought about one of these?
 
Just water the other night. I gravel vac every other water change. Try not to disturb good bacteria in gravel as much as possible.
 
I have a wet/dry system on it now for probably the last 5 months or so. Pumps out around 400 gph. Also another hangon filter, forget the brand, but does around 200 gph.
So I'm looking at almost a 5 to 1 turnover ratio per hour. Ammonia carb, etc, filtration pads, all of that good stuff. I had a UV, the bulb burned out, I got a replacement and it still doesnt work. Being out of work I cant keep dumping money into another one right now. I can buy fish, but no UV, LMAO.
 
N.Y.Jetsfan;4702700; said:
Just water the other night. I gravel vac every other water change. Try not to disturb good bacteria in gravel as much as possible.
I try to get as much poop out of the gravel as I can when I do changes but your method sounds good.
 
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