I would. have liked to get more Uarus, I think they are the most peaceful cichlids I have known. They definitely like to be together and a group would be good. But when I got mine there were only 3 left and one was not in good condition. Not seen any more for sale since. I have no idea what sex mine are.
Peaceful midsize cichlids?
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I like the uaru but my ph runs 8.0 to 8.2. I think I'm better off going with the chocolate. I've got my lfs looking for one for me.
I didn't realise your ph was so high. I know that fish can become accustomed to higher/lower ph over time, but I also can't help thinking that you wouldn't be giving either the Uaru or Choc cichlid, whichever you choose, the best start. Both prefer softer water.
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I appreciate the advice and I've seen that too but from what I've read the chocolates are pretty adaptable and the uarus are not.
YesI didn't realise your ph was so high. I know that fish can become accustomed to higher/lower ph over time, but I also can't help thinking that you wouldn't be giving either the Uaru or Choc cichlid, whichever you choose, the best start. Both prefer softer water.
I was watching this thread and thinking, with an 8.2 pH, choices for this aquarium need to be thought out and researched carefully.
We probably should have been asking about water parameters much earlier.
And so. OP.....what are other water parameters?
Things like Total and Calcium hardness, even conductivity. You can find these on your water providers web site under "Drinking Water Quality results, or maybe even on your water bill
Although most fish as entities aresn't bothered by pH. or hardness
Certain bacteria thrive in a certain pH's, and some like the bacteria that causes chronic HITH are pH dependent, preferring pH at, or above 7.5.
So fish that have evolved in a soft water low pH environment often have little resistance to high pH hard water bacteria.
If it were me, I'd be looking at either moderate size Central Americans, like Amatitlania or Thorichthys, ......
or moderate sized rift lake Africans, there are hundreds of those species.
You should probably "Not" ...be looking at soft water South Americans like Uaru, Geophagus, chocolates or the like.
Its not the fish itself that needs to be adaptable, its whether or not the fish has resistance/immunity to the water type bacteria you have.
Spending millions of years adapting to waters, and the bacteria that evolved in pH below 7, does not bode well for them at pH 8.2.
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Well the convicts and firemouths only get about half the size of what I'm looking for. If your thinking rift lake what options would there be in the 10 to 12 inch range but still peaceful? Like a frontosa as a centerpiece? I'm not interested in an aggressive male only tank of 5 inch fish.
To me a 90 gal is not really substantial enough for any cichlid that tops out over 8", especially if you want a community.
Maybe a pair.
For some of the cichlids you seem to prefer tanks over 6 ft long have a proper footprint.
Maybe a pair.
For some of the cichlids you seem to prefer tanks over 6 ft long have a proper footprint.
Yes I've heard that opinion from a few members before but I've also seen a couple times that 4x fish length and 1.5x for width. Which would mean a 12 inch fish in my tank. Here's the thing, i have a 90g tank and would love a 6 or 8 foot tank but it's not in the cards right now. By community i man like 4 or 5 fish that can chi exist and only 1 in the 10 to 12 inch range, the rest in the 6 to 8 inch range is what I'm looking for. Now i can give them good water quality and frequent water changes and good quality food etc. I cannot stretch this tank. I'm looking for help in finding fish that meet these size and temperament ranges.
Ok, my water tests out at Ph 8.2, Kh 7, and Gh somewhere north of 25. I’m moving away from my favorite continent of SA because my G tapajo have HITH and my woodcats fins are melting away. My Silver Dollars are starting to show some effects too but not as drastically. My H liberifers, G brasiliensis and H temporalis are good so far.
G brasiliensis is listed as being able to live in water with pH: 6.0 – 8.0 and Hardness: 18 – 268 ppm. My male was over 10in when he died and my female is pushing 8in. My large cichlids are housed in a 220g and a 260g. The. G tapajo in a 130g but these could be housed in a 90g.
Your 90g would work short term but any cichlid of size is going to start feeling cramped as you add more fish. I had a client with a pair of green severums in a 55g and they bickered constantly.
G brasiliensis is listed as being able to live in water with pH: 6.0 – 8.0 and Hardness: 18 – 268 ppm. My male was over 10in when he died and my female is pushing 8in. My large cichlids are housed in a 220g and a 260g. The. G tapajo in a 130g but these could be housed in a 90g.
Your 90g would work short term but any cichlid of size is going to start feeling cramped as you add more fish. I had a client with a pair of green severums in a 55g and they bickered constantly.
Well i do appreciate that info and if anyone has ideas on more appropriate ph fish I'm all ears. Even 8 to 10 inch range is fine but not interested in the 5 to 6 inch
