Petition against expiriments at MVMS. I need your help. Please sign!

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As an educator, and being around educators, it is not 100% necessary for the experiment to work for the the lesson to be effective. They are trying to learn about habitat and ecosystems and whatnot, and it is very unfortunate that this happens. Are we gonna start petitions to ban dissection of frogs and pigs? Both are necessary for the educational process.
 
As an educator I thought you would have had a better argument or point. Dissecting frogs and animal parts is completely different. That is science, learning anatomy, etc. Putting animals into a plastic bottle and letting them die every year, to me, does not really get much across to students. If they want to make a self sustaining ecosystem then there are many many better ways to demonstrate this to kids. Like how charts show one thing, but when you cut into a cows heart you see it. I think kids would appreciate fish more if schools has nice tanks, or get a smaller 5 or 10 gallon and make that self sufficient with shrimp, small fish, plants, etc.
 
irishfan;3949076; said:
As an educator I thought you would have had a better argument or point. Dissecting frogs and animal parts is completely different. That is science, learning anatomy, etc. Putting animals into a plastic bottle and letting them die every year, to me, does not really get much across to students. If they want to make a self sustaining ecosystem then there are many many better ways to demonstrate this to kids. Like how charts show one thing, but when you cut into a cows heart you see it. I think kids would appreciate fish more if schools has nice tanks, or get a smaller 5 or 10 gallon and make that self sufficient with shrimp, small fish, plants, etc.
Thank you!

Once upon a time there was a wise man who used to go to the ocean to do his journal writing. He had a habit of walking on the beach before he began his work. One day he was walking along the shore. As he looked down the beach, he saw a human figure moving like a dancer. He smiled to himself to think of someone who would dance to the day. So he began to walk faster to catch up.
As he got closer, he saw that it was a young man and the young man wasn't dancing, but instead he was reaching down to the shore, picking up something and very gently throwing it into the ocean.
As he got closer he called out, "Good morning! What are you doing?"
The young man paused, looked up and replied, "Throwing starfish in the ocean."
"I guess I should have asked, why are you throwing starfish in the ocean?"
"The sun is up, and the tide is going out. And if I don't throw them in they'll die."
"But, young man, don't you realize that there are miles and miles of beach, and starfish all along it. You can't possibly make a difference!"
The young man listened politely. Then bent down, picked up another starfish and threw it into the sea, past the breaking waves and said, "It made a difference for that one."


My goal in life is not to relieve all animals of their suffering, but only to save as many as I can
 
veganchick;3949770; said:
Thank you!

Once upon a time there was a wise man who used to go to the ocean to do his journal writing. He had a habit of walking on the beach before he began his work. One day he was walking along the shore. As he looked down the beach, he saw a human figure moving like a dancer. He smiled to himself to think of someone who would dance to the day. So he began to walk faster to catch up.
As he got closer, he saw that it was a young man and the young man wasn't dancing, but instead he was reaching down to the shore, picking up something and very gently throwing it into the ocean.
As he got closer he called out, "Good morning! What are you doing?"
The young man paused, looked up and replied, "Throwing starfish in the ocean."
"I guess I should have asked, why are you throwing starfish in the ocean?"
"The sun is up, and the tide is going out. And if I don't throw them in they'll die."
"But, young man, don't you realize that there are miles and miles of beach, and starfish all along it. You can't possibly make a difference!"
The young man listened politely. Then bent down, picked up another starfish and threw it into the sea, past the breaking waves and said, "It made a difference for that one."


My goal in life is not to relieve all animals of their suffering, but only to save as many as I can

I agree with Oddball that is a beautiful poem! I like what you are trying to do and I support you 100%. However I think it would be more effective if you started a petition in your school with students and even parents. There not going to really care what we think but they will care what the hometown crowd thinks. You keep doing what your doing and don't ever let anyone tell you different.
 
If you successfully rehomed a hundred of them last year then it seems that you had saved a majority of them (based on your provided numbers). Why not just keep doing that?

@Chester - Saying you are much older than her just makes you sound like such a defeatist. You are an adult who has failed so she shouldn't be a student who can try? Weird logic. :screwy:
 
nope, 3/4 of them died..... The rest were VERY sick, and I rehomed most, and kept a few that now have special needs because of the expiriment
 
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