Petland: Animal Planet Investigates

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sericinda;4151344; said:
I'm not saying all pet stores mis-handle or don't care about their puppies. However, I have a high standard of ethical breeding, and selling to pet stores does not meet that criteria, mostly because the breeder is no longer able to control or have input in the future of that puppy, with a spay or neuter contract for those puppies that are not of breeding quality. Being "registered" does not mean the dog has the temperament, health, history, coat type, and body structure to be bred.

With ethical breeders, they are invested in the life of their puppies, for that puppies' lifetime. If an owner has to get rid of their dog at any time, the breeders welcome and INSIST, through contract, that the dog goes back to them to prevent them from ending up in bad situations. They are there for guidance to the owners for training issues, behaviour problems, etc...for the life of the puppy. Find me a pet store or back yard breeder that does that. Rare, to say the least.

Seeing a vet is VERY different than having health tests done on the parents before they are ever bred. A breeder that does not do such health tests is not a good breeder in my eyes. A breeder that doesn't have a waiting list of potential owners before they ever breed, is not an ethical breeder in my eyes. Just my opinion.

There are far too many badly bred dogs out there and far too many in need of home in shelters for me to justify or support "back yard breeding". Either do it right, or don't do it at all. That's my stand.

I'm a groomer, I see dozens and dozens of dogs a week. Tossing out some wide numbers here for the sake of example, 90% of them come from pet stores or back yard breeders. 80% of those have temperament problems, health problems, skin and coat problems. In contrast, the few that actually get their dogs from ethical breeders have well-adjusted, healthy, dogs with gorgeous coats. Part of this is how well the owner cares for their dogs (quality food...none of that science diet and iams crap) and proper training and socialization, but a large part of it has to do with the fact that the dogs' parents and grandparents and great-great-grandparents had good genes that were carefully bred.

Someone will inevitably reply to this arguing that mutts are healthier than purebreds, and I won't dispute that. However, a puggle or a shi-poo or all those other designer breeds...are not mutts. They are badly bred, INTENTIONAL mixed breedings. It takes many many years for a breed to become a stable breed. Yes, all purebreds are a mix of some other sort of dog to create that breed, but it also didn't happen in a span of 10 years, which is why Labradoodles and Puggles and whatnot are no-where near becoming a stable breed.

Which brings me to actual mutts. A true mutt does not have generations of "careful" breeding behind it to create it. A vast majority of purebred dogs DO have health problems....because they come from unethical breeding situations where the stability of that breed has long since been altered by bad breeding. Finding a truly ethical breeder in the united states today is very difficult and that is very unfortunate. It only takes ONE generation of bad breeding to forever alter that line. One puppy with bad traits being bred, and you have ruined generations of careful selection. Thus why spay and neuter contracts when selling pet-quality versus show-quality puppies is so important.

If you want a purebred dog....adopt. There are tons of breed-specific rescues out there and those dogs need loving homes too. Same for mutts...walk into any pound and you will find dozens of wonderful dogs. Why ANYONE would rather support pet stores and back yard breeders versus rescuing a dog in need or finding an ethical breeder is beyound me. I chalk it up to ignorance (and that is not meant to be an insult).
personally, if i got a dog, local shelters would be the first place i would go and i wish every person considering a dog would do the same.
im not trying to say not to support shelters and breeders, just trying to show that not all shops are like petland
 
ceeej31;4151357; said:
personally, if i got a dog, local shelters would be the first place i would go and i wish every person considering a dog would do the same.
im not trying to say not to support shelters and breeders, just trying to show that not all shops are like petland

I agree with that, although I still don't support buying a dog from a pet store (or selling dogs to a pet store for that matter), not all pet stores are "bad" in how they care for their puppies. Same goes for fish ;) Just like some pet stores will sell a ghost knifefish to a person with a 10 gallon tank and not think twice, whereas another will educate and even refuse to sell if the tank is not sufficient.

My local petsmart is awesome...the manager is very well informed and insists on her employees being educated and passing that education along, within the confines of the organization (in other words, I doubt she can REFUSE to sell a fish to a customer, but she can try to educate them and steer them towards a better choice). I've never seen another petsmart with staff like that. My local fish store on the other hand, will sell anything to anyone that has money, regardless. They take care of their stock, but that's the limits of their caring and you would never see them advise someone in a different direction if they have money to spend, even at the expense, literally, of the pet.
 
TTTT;4149901; said:
Anyone else seen this show?

I have never supported Petland in the past (only been there a few times, never bought anything) but now I will NEVER buy a thing from them, ever.

I know AP has some ridiculous shows like Fatal Attractions and Killer Aliens, but this one seriously opened my eyes.
where are the locations.. and what were complaints
 
I work at petland here in canada and I must say that even my boss told me this during training when I first started last year that the petland in the usa suck ****!
The ones in canada or atleast the one work at I have never seen a petshop take such good care of the animals which always come first.
 
I hate petland. I wrote to petland corporate to complaint about how many dead dried up fish I saw by the gravel bags under the tanks and vowed never to shop there again.

I understand fish jump out of tanks, but there was at least 10 dead ones covered in dust.

Two weeks ago, I found out that petland closed.

The other petlands I have been to in the tri state are also ghetto fab.
 
For example the petland here canada where I work at we do "dead runs" every hour, which include checking in the gravel, under decor, in sumps,cabinets etc...
I just want to say though that I'm not definding petland but just stating what a petland is like here in canada. I personally don't buy fish from my store also, but that's just because they carry no monster fish.
 
Interesting that their competitor Petsmart sells animal planet brand products....

While I think adoption/sterilization campaigns are largely wonderful ideas the popular trend demonizing of breeders a little excessive. The petstore puppy window set up is aimed at the impulse purchases and it is Petlands strategy to push purchase via employee commission fueled aggressive pitch and easy low monthly payment plans.

Perhaps it would be better to leave sales to the professional breeders who screen potential buyers, better educate owners and have the best interests of the breed at heart.
 
I saw the show and was disgusted by it.
Just because breeders are USDA listed does not mean that they are not fined by them for the inhumane way they care for their dogs that they are breeding.
Many of them keep their dogs in wired cages off the ground so all the fecies and pee goes right threw the cages. The females are bred so often that many don't live to see their 2nd birthday. Many will have over 200 dogs to care for.
Many of the dogs that are sold at Petland come down with pneumonia and leg defects from the inhumane way they are kept. After $3,000-5,000 in vet bills Petland may refund you the $900 cost of the dog or they will take the dog back and euthanize it.
Quality breeders will never sell to a pet store, post ads in newspapers or put signs up at busy intersections like you see here in Michigan. It's all word of mouth.
 
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