PH problem NEED h2O NERDS! Please help

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo
CLDarnell;4830468; said:
Nevermind my post, in a sense you have already tested it.

The only other thing I can think of is to try testing a mist and see what happens. A capped piece of pvc pipe with a series of tiny holes drilled in the side would make a good mister.
That could be a good Idea! I might do this and add diffusers into it! might really work I am onto the idea I have to invent a simple tool to stabilize ph during water changes! Many could probably benefit from this!
 
ok WTF.....the water that is being agitated is now at 8.5.....I have kept rays for several years and fish for over a decade and this is damn confusing! Never have I had water problems like this!
 
I should ask, is there anything in your tank(s) that could be causing this rise? I am sure you have considered this already, but I have to ask :)

If it goes into the tank at 6.8, then raises to 8+, then lowers to 7+ when you do a water change (with 6.8 water)...just on that information alone, it sounds like something inside the tank is contributing.
 
lol, I have to quit posting at the same time you do :) Your posts always answer my questions before I ask them!
 
That sounds very irritating. I wish I had some advice for you but any ideas I would have had have already been covered.

Have you thought about a drip system? It would at least keep the ph constant not sure exactly where it would level off though ?
 
Nothing in my tanks! I keep some with 3m sand some bare bottom and other playsand. The reason it goes down so fast is because I do not agitate it "age it" before the water change so the water flowing in is co2 rich. I have sponge filters powered by a large central air pump which further agitates the system! I am in aww tho since I have really never had this high of ph in my tanks now all of them are high! What can cause my well water to become so co2 rich so fast?
 
I would invest in a large food grade water holder and put a power head in it. It is not the most cost effective but it is probably the easiest way
 
It looks like we're thinking backwards then. Aeration raises ph based on your last test...possibly by releasing CO2. What about metering CO2 into your water then? I know some use CO2 scrubbers on SW tanks to raise ph. What if you do the opposite and add CO2?

This may sound silly, but we can try a simple test. Fill a glass with water and let it sit for a bit. Check it and see if your ph is high. If so, get a straw handy. Take a breath and exhale through the straw into the water. Do this a few times and check again. If there is any logic to this, the ph should drop. It may be slight, but that's all we're looking for at the moment.

Good luck!
 
CLDarnell;4830525; said:
It looks like we're thinking backwards then. Aeration raises ph based on your last test...possibly by releasing CO2. What about metering CO2 into your water then? I know some use CO2 scrubbers on SW tanks to raise ph. What if you do the opposite and add CO2?

This may sound silly, but we can try a simple test. Fill a glass with water and let it sit for a bit. Check it and see if your ph is high. If so, get a straw handy. Take a breath and exhale through the straw into the water. Do this a few times and check again. If there is any logic to this, the ph should drop. It may be slight, but that's all we're looking for at the moment.

Good luck!


When I add co2 into my reef tank my ph is lowered! Thats a whole another process in its own. If I just let my water sit with out aeration the ph stays low! This means I realease the co2 molecules with the air. By adding air the co2 is taken away into the atmoshere being removed from water raising ph. I do not want to leave the co2 in the tank either. This is a bad situation!
 
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