Here's a photo of a parrot that looked like mine, only mine was a pinkish orange with the stripes instead of white and mine had more black stripes on the body too.
Photoshop or is it possible? red texas parrot
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I really need to find me a Creamsicle Parrot. Looks like it never finished peeling, I have one like that but shes orange.
Faders put on those spots when they are showing submission to another fish in their general area... Parrots rank by number of spots this is a trait that comes from the midas cichlid... all u gotta do is raise sum parrots in large groups. (to get so called (creamsicle) As they become more dominant they eventually fade or don't depending.
So there really isn't such a thing, its just a parrot that has been in a different condition in its life.
As for your pic hunter... yeah i've seen enough proof that I believe that picture... of course you would never find a fish that looks like that because that is the masterpiece the breeder saved to put on pictures in his advertisments (or wherever the pic came from, but im willing to bet similar story)
You can get blood red texas parrots occasionally from thailand, but they are rare because of course the males are sterile in both species... ergo your best bet for making one is a fertile male parrot or fertile male red texas, or fish that throw similar genes. These are out there but this is why the fish is so rare. People of course have been breeding similar things and you can see them around.. you can even find srt parrots sometimes but itll cost you a few hundred
So there really isn't such a thing, its just a parrot that has been in a different condition in its life.
As for your pic hunter... yeah i've seen enough proof that I believe that picture... of course you would never find a fish that looks like that because that is the masterpiece the breeder saved to put on pictures in his advertisments (or wherever the pic came from, but im willing to bet similar story)
You can get blood red texas parrots occasionally from thailand, but they are rare because of course the males are sterile in both species... ergo your best bet for making one is a fertile male parrot or fertile male red texas, or fish that throw similar genes. These are out there but this is why the fish is so rare. People of course have been breeding similar things and you can see them around.. you can even find srt parrots sometimes but itll cost you a few hundred
What your talking about is black splotches that they get when stressed which is entirely different. Those show up in situations where the fish is being bullied, sick, bad water, and sometimes breeding.
What I am talking about in my picture and the one Hunter posted is related to the whole peeling process. Sometimes fish will never finish process and have left over from before they started the process. I have seen this 3 times in my fish, twice in Parrots and once in Flowerhorn. And I have seen this in many adult fish that are not my own. I'm thinking its more genetic than situational.
This is black splotches or "stress spots"
This is fish that hasn't completely faded.
^ If you put those two side by side I wouldnt' be able to tell the stressed parrot from the one that didn't completely fade. When I bought my marbled/tiger striped parrot, I couldn't afford it at first, so the store kept it for about 2 months for me while I got things together. Over those two months it never changed colors so I bought it. It really wasn't much money looking back, it was $25, but in 1998 I thought it was a lot for a fish and wanted to make sure it was healthy before I bought it. That fish even survived the May 3rd tornado, I had to stay at a LFS for about 3 weeks afterwards because we had no power either. Eventually I sold it, and now I kick myself for it too although by now I'm not sure it would still be alive either.
Chris... yes this is what I am saying. The potential for totally fading I will grant is genetic... but yes we are talking about the same thing. The social use of these spots is a measure of social rank. In the wild midas and red devils start totally black and "earn" their fade by winning fights and taking land.
Obviously It would be a useful measure of social rank to see if a fish is stressed by other factors... the best fish have the best land and are seldom stressed... I also think once they become OGs most of them loose the ability to turn black.
So what I'm saying is that these are the same thing. It is essentially a stress marker, but what it means to the other fish is basically a short life history... so they can decide which one of them is better, which is eseentially all cichlids seem to think about regarding social matters lol.
So that's what I'm saying. "creamsicle" parrots are most often just ones that have been in crowded tanks/corporate ponds. Don't forget that the "stressed" black colour is not an immediate marker of something wrong... rather they change over time as a response to the overall condition of their environment. Either way this is how you get them in my experience. Every 6 months or so I get a new batch of parrot babies and raise them together. They always end up with a sequential number of spots with the lowest ones being creamsicle or staying brown.
Allthough I do not doubt that there is some degree of genetic involvement in this, and it probably comes from the % of midas or labiatus red devil in the fish... as i have noticed labs do it more than the other species. Midas rely more on head and body structure to determine dominance
Obviously It would be a useful measure of social rank to see if a fish is stressed by other factors... the best fish have the best land and are seldom stressed... I also think once they become OGs most of them loose the ability to turn black.
So what I'm saying is that these are the same thing. It is essentially a stress marker, but what it means to the other fish is basically a short life history... so they can decide which one of them is better, which is eseentially all cichlids seem to think about regarding social matters lol.
So that's what I'm saying. "creamsicle" parrots are most often just ones that have been in crowded tanks/corporate ponds. Don't forget that the "stressed" black colour is not an immediate marker of something wrong... rather they change over time as a response to the overall condition of their environment. Either way this is how you get them in my experience. Every 6 months or so I get a new batch of parrot babies and raise them together. They always end up with a sequential number of spots with the lowest ones being creamsicle or staying brown.
Allthough I do not doubt that there is some degree of genetic involvement in this, and it probably comes from the % of midas or labiatus red devil in the fish... as i have noticed labs do it more than the other species. Midas rely more on head and body structure to determine dominance
Whenever I sell a creamsicle parrot alone I always warn the person that it may or may not stay that way. blotchy parrots at least from my stock tend to loose their spots if they are the only parrot in the tank. I dont know how this works for you but this would be the way to tell if they were permanant. At least in my experience this has always happened.
Highly doubt it, those kind of stripes are found some other faders, ive seen em on faded kamfa before.
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