pike cichlid
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Peanut_Power said:
all peanut cares about is if pike is in the title name! do you keep any other fish?
Hehe, when i see pike in the title, its like a friggin magnet!! Can't help it!
phene4grene420 : thats awesome bro...and it Crenicichla sp. "venezuela" Watch out for parasites though feedin rosies. What you should do is set up at least a 20gal..although bigger is better, and drop about 75 in there with a filter and a pump for water circulation. bare bottom. That way, you can treat them and have a steady supply, less risk. Plus you can gut feed them! As for my newly acquired pikes, I've already got the buggas onto salmon fillets (chopped small...hehe), cocktail shrimp, mysis shrimp, and blood worms. Haven't given them any live foods yet aside from the first day when i got rid of my guppies...lol...found that i still had lke 5 left over from the day before they came so i decided to feed them. Didn't last long. Be sure that at least once a week you go a day with out feeding your pike so it is able to clean out its tummy! Do that with most predators, you feed them for a few days and then give them a day of fasting. Some reason it seems to help them and they seem to grow faster as well. Hella hungery the next day! LOL!
phene4grene420 : thats awesome bro...and it Crenicichla sp. "venezuela" Watch out for parasites though feedin rosies. What you should do is set up at least a 20gal..although bigger is better, and drop about 75 in there with a filter and a pump for water circulation. bare bottom. That way, you can treat them and have a steady supply, less risk. Plus you can gut feed them! As for my newly acquired pikes, I've already got the buggas onto salmon fillets (chopped small...hehe), cocktail shrimp, mysis shrimp, and blood worms. Haven't given them any live foods yet aside from the first day when i got rid of my guppies...lol...found that i still had lke 5 left over from the day before they came so i decided to feed them. Didn't last long. Be sure that at least once a week you go a day with out feeding your pike so it is able to clean out its tummy! Do that with most predators, you feed them for a few days and then give them a day of fasting. Some reason it seems to help them and they seem to grow faster as well. Hella hungery the next day! LOL!
Pnut....not to disagree but I've never had a belly crawler get over 6 in. or so.... I've kept them in 29 up to 120 gal and haven't seen a difference. Do they generally exceed this length??
Bad news on my end though....just finished moving to PA.....lost my Xingu 1
along with a polleni, female Escondido, Gr. Terror..... Apparently I have some sort of heavy metal in the well water here....F**K!!! But I do still have one other Xingu1 in FL waiting for me and the Joh. I have made it
Since you have the pike love I'll have to get some pics up when the Joh gets a bit bigger and less shy
Bad news on my end though....just finished moving to PA.....lost my Xingu 1
along with a polleni, female Escondido, Gr. Terror..... Apparently I have some sort of heavy metal in the well water here....F**K!!! But I do still have one other Xingu1 in FL waiting for me and the Joh. I have made it Since you have the pike love I'll have to get some pics up when the Joh gets a bit bigger and less shyFo shizzal. Maybe i had a different species of belly crawler cuz my male was easily 8"...no problem. He was beefy too. Sorry bout your fish, that sucks. Living in the country as well, we have well water and it does have some heavy metals as well, which is why i got an RO unit to try and filter out some of it. Less stress on the fish.
phene: Barebottom, like just glass in the tank, no gravel/substrate. Will be much easier to clean up the waste and dead feeders.
When I said gut load them, its more of a term that you use when you are talkin about crickets/mealworms. What it means is you feed them high protein foods and other quality foods, then you feed them to your animals/fish. That way, they get what the cricket/mealworm just ate and is in their system, thus being more nutrious for you animal. With feeders, you would feed them high quality pellets or other foods that your fish wouldn't normally eat. Kinda like givin them their vitamins in a way.
phene: Barebottom, like just glass in the tank, no gravel/substrate. Will be much easier to clean up the waste and dead feeders.
When I said gut load them, its more of a term that you use when you are talkin about crickets/mealworms. What it means is you feed them high protein foods and other quality foods, then you feed them to your animals/fish. That way, they get what the cricket/mealworm just ate and is in their system, thus being more nutrious for you animal. With feeders, you would feed them high quality pellets or other foods that your fish wouldn't normally eat. Kinda like givin them their vitamins in a way.
Pnut.....any other ways to get some of the heavy metals out?? I don't exactly have the funds to do an RO unit right now. I believe the metal is manganese....everything seemed to perk when I put new carbon in but i don't wanna have to put new cartridges in all the time when they aren't whipped yet. Should I put a giant MRI magnet in the bottom?? Kidding :y220e: BTW....I still have one Xingu 1 in FL to pick up yet. Too bad you're in NB....I think I just found a lfs that is willing to do some orders to Jeff Rapps so my pike collection will be building soon I hope
You could install a inline house filter. We have one of those as well on our regular water line, and it removes a lot of the managanese and other harmful metals, but still some gets by. You could get some nylon stalking and stuff them plump full of carbon and put them in your tank/filter. That way their will be twice the carbon in the tank, remove more harmful metals...plus you wouldn't have to replace the filters. Make sure you wash off as much carbon dust as possible though, no need to stress the fish more.
As for Rapps, if you are into Saxatilis pikes hes the man to talk to at the moment. Personally, I am more into the bigger and badder pikes...hehe..from the Lugubris family. He doesn't have very many Lugubris to choose from, aside from cincta and venezuela. His vitta is temptin, but i bit large....lol...like to grow my pikes out myself.
Congrats though!! I envy you on that aspect. When i get my pikes breeding though...hehe...we can swap fishies! 
BTW...Nebraska is NE.....lol.....not NB...
As for Rapps, if you are into Saxatilis pikes hes the man to talk to at the moment. Personally, I am more into the bigger and badder pikes...hehe..from the Lugubris family. He doesn't have very many Lugubris to choose from, aside from cincta and venezuela. His vitta is temptin, but i bit large....lol...like to grow my pikes out myself.
Congrats though!! I envy you on that aspect. When i get my pikes breeding though...hehe...we can swap fishies! BTW...Nebraska is NE.....lol.....not NB...NE....Rog... What can I say, I'm back in hillbilly land, its bleeding back into me :ner2: I pretty much did already what you adivised so lets hope it goes well...did mix a bit of zeolite in so my tank doesn't spike. Dad...wheeooow....just had to force the heavy cleaning of the tank before it went in the house "smells like fish"....needless to say he didn't understand the fact that yes, empty it might but I needed the bacteria bed for ohhhh....say about now! So I"m trying not to go through too heavy of an ammonia spike.
As far as the lugubris....agreed, but I just plain want every pike living
I'm flying with a kid tomorrow for an end of course review so when I get done with that I'll go by the lfs and see if they've looked into Rapps at all. My next investment (after a bigger tank again) will be to get ahold of the leopard pike....I really tend to love all the ones that seem to take on a heavy color morph through the maturation stages....as well as the big boys that just OWN. BTW, Johanni is supposed to get around 16 or so correct??
What can I say, I'm back in hillbilly land, its bleeding back into me :ner2: I pretty much did already what you adivised so lets hope it goes well...did mix a bit of zeolite in so my tank doesn't spike. Dad...wheeooow....just had to force the heavy cleaning of the tank before it went in the house "smells like fish"....needless to say he didn't understand the fact that yes, empty it might but I needed the bacteria bed for ohhhh....say about now! So I"m trying not to go through too heavy of an ammonia spike.As far as the lugubris....agreed, but I just plain want every pike living
I'm flying with a kid tomorrow for an end of course review so when I get done with that I'll go by the lfs and see if they've looked into Rapps at all. My next investment (after a bigger tank again) will be to get ahold of the leopard pike....I really tend to love all the ones that seem to take on a heavy color morph through the maturation stages....as well as the big boys that just OWN. BTW, Johanni is supposed to get around 16 or so correct??LOL!! Nice. Johanna does get large...dunno about 16" though, thought more like 14" maybe. But its possible. Hope you don't spike or nothing!! That would suck! Pikes seem sensative when they are juv. to water quality, especially below 4"...after that they become much more hardy.
Leopard pike? Hmmm....can you give the scientific name to that? Haven't heard that one before. Is it a Saxatilis pike? Or are you talkin about Crenicichla tigrina? Good luck findin those if you are...practically impossible...but more power to yaz if you can! And hook me up! I have to agree with you 100%...the Lugubris pikes that take on the heavy color morphage are some of my fav. species. Just awesome to watch them go through it. Each stage is awesome!! If I had the space I would snatch up some of Rapps xingu I he has for sale now...a bit small though. Plus xingu I are a bit more aggressive as adults, gorgeous though. I want more laid back pikes so i can try and keep more than one pair in a tank....*fingers crossed*
Leopard pike? Hmmm....can you give the scientific name to that? Haven't heard that one before. Is it a Saxatilis pike? Or are you talkin about Crenicichla tigrina? Good luck findin those if you are...practically impossible...but more power to yaz if you can! And hook me up!
I have to agree with you 100%...the Lugubris pikes that take on the heavy color morphage are some of my fav. species. Just awesome to watch them go through it. Each stage is awesome!! If I had the space I would snatch up some of Rapps xingu I he has for sale now...a bit small though. Plus xingu I are a bit more aggressive as adults, gorgeous though. I want more laid back pikes so i can try and keep more than one pair in a tank....*fingers crossed*