That one lfs guy wasn't there. The dude who deals with reptiles and mammals was but not the fish guym the other lfs is trying to find them. If he does I will let u all know incase u all wanting some. That's why I want a breeding pair. Seems tho there hard to find compaired to other cichlids. Did find a real nice looking green terror locally. But they don't seem to turn as green as I thought.