Please help!. this is getting anoying!

[yourbestfriend]

ok i have had my 55 gallon set up since around april. the is a poly sen, an oscar, a clown knife, a pleco, and two small red belly pacu in it. it has a 50 gallon HOB filter and a 30 gallon HOB filter on it. and for some reason it is ALWAYS cloudy. i do lots of water changes. and ive tried pretty much everything and nothing works. i have not fed my fish for 4 days to see if it was the food and nothing is working. and ever since i got my oscar its been worse because all my fish eat cichlid pellets but when he eats them he doesnt diggest them(i guess), because when he poops its the same color as it was when he ate the pellets, its just looks diferent.lol. its like if u chewed up your food and then squeezed it throught a toothpaste bottle. thats what it looks like.


i dont know what do do other than even MORE water changes and adding a rena xp2 (wich ive been meaning to do from the beggining but i have no money for it). i need suggestions.

ohh and for all those wondering. my water perameters are fine. everything in the tank is PERFECT except for the cloudy water.

 

[Bogwoodbruce]

Thats probably due to to being a lot of potentially large fish in a small tank. Stop cleaning the tank it sounds like a bacterial bloom, leave it for a few days it should clear.

 

[jbnebres]

what kinda decor or substrate do you have in the tank? How big are the fishes(6 a lot for 55)? Any plants? What are the two filters gph-rating? And what is "lots of water changes", twice a month? twice a week? Picture would help. Basically you need more, and better filtration. buy a pump, make a lil sump.

 

[yourbestfriend]

Thats probably due to to being a lot of potentially large fish in a small tank. Stop cleaning the tank it sounds like a bacterial bloom, leave it for a few days it should clear.

potentially large, yes. but large now? no. they are all small. the largest beig the oscar at 4 inches. and i have tryied leaving it. didnt help. and ive never heard of a bloom lasting months?

what kinda decor or substrate do you have in the tank? How big are the fishes(6 a lot for 55)? Any plants? What are the two filters gph-rating? And what is "lots of water changes", twice a month? twice a week? Picture would help.

i have gravel, some plants but they are fake. i have a cave that is made from rocks i got from a creek, but they were boiled and thourohly cleaned before i put them in the tank. the 2 pacu are 2 inches, the sen is 4, the oscar is 4, and the pleco is 4. i could only find the gph rating on the 30 gallon filter and its 125 gph. and a lot of water changes imo is 2-3 times a week. and i would give pics but i dont have a digital camera.

also i was wondering if it could maybe be the water? when i do water changes in my 20 gallon i use water from the kitchen sink and its crystal clear. but when i do water changes for my 55 i use water from the bath tub sink. could this maybe be the reason?

 

[jjdsplace]

try this they have algone which clears up cloudy water
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[pcfriedrich]

could be the sink. try this: fill a glass with water from the bathroom sink, and see if it comes out cloudy. there could be something with the plumbing in the bathroom that causes lots of tiny bubbles to form (I've seen this before, in california).

could be an algae bloom, too. is this tank getting more light than your other?

they also make water clarifier. it encourages (through magic, I think) tiny particles to clump together into larger particles, making them easier to trap in your filter.

 

[yourbestfriend]

could be the sink. try this: fill a glass with water from the bathroom sink, and see if it comes out cloudy. there could be something with the plumbing in the bathroom that causes lots of tiny bubbles to form (I've seen this before, in california).

could be an algae bloom, too. is this tank getting more light than your other?

they also make water clarifier. it encourages (through magic, I think) tiny particles to clump together into larger particles, making them easier to trap in your filter.

well idk if its the water for sure because when i look at it in the bucket i use to do wate changes, it looks very clear.

 

[pcfriedrich]

well idk if its the water for sure because when i look at it in the bucket i use to do wate changes, it looks very clear.

try it in a glass. I used to work in a restaurant in LA, and the water in glasses always looked nasty, cloudy. it was just tiny, tiny air bubbles; but even in an 8 oz glass it would take hours to clear up. probably take days for the bubbles to clear in a decent sized aqurium.

if its not air bubbles from the plumbing, it could really only be algae or bacterial blooms.

 

[yourbestfriend]

try it in a glass. I used to work in a restaurant in LA, and the water in glasses always looked nasty, cloudy. it was just tiny, tiny air bubbles; but even in an 8 oz glass it would take hours to clear up. probably take days for the bubbles to clear in a decent sized aqurium.

if its not air bubbles from the plumbing, it could really only be algae or bacterial blooms.

what can i do to get ride of them?

 

[jjdsplace]

Bacteria Bloom is beneficial bacteria. When nutrients are plentiful in the tank, they help the bacteria to multiply at such a high rate, it causes the water to become cloudy. Small amounts of bacteria can consume as much energy as a person can. Dead fish can be the result, as they could suffer from lack of oxygen. One preventative action to take is to have one of the many kits available always on hand. A simple test will determine whether your ammonia levels are unusually high and thus signaling a Bacteria Bloom.

Other related causes of the cloudy water problem could be, the medicines that have been put in the water. Sometimes when we see a fish appearing sick, we add medicines to the water. While these may protect or heal the sick fish, other negative results, like the destroying of bacteria colonies, could hinder more than help the fish. Changing the gravel, and cleaning filters all at onece, while necessary, can also cause a bacteria bloom resulting in cloudy water. These should be done gradually as you risk removing bacteria that had settled in. When adding fresh gravel that is not properly washed, you may also see the water becoming cloudy. Using the available remedies to correct these would contribute to removing the cloudy water.
Other actions to take include the use of zeolites is recommended as a means of getting rid of the ammonia in the water. Immediately change one third of the water, ensuring the temperature is the same. Treat the water with a recommended conditioner or use a Reverse Osmosis kit which is readily available at your pet food store. Make an effort to remove live plants that have decayed, cleaning your aquarium gravel or sand and cutting down on excess feeding are simple ways to get rid of this problem.
Controlling the nutrient level in your tank can eliminate this problem. Testing the waters regularly can aid in the prevention of this problem. Consult your pet store for advise on testing methods and tools available as well as appropriate skimmers and their use. You can start by recognizing that a cloudy aquarium is the signal of a problem that needs to be dealt with quickly, it wouldn't go away on its own.