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Ok, here is the plumbing into the sump. Question, the instructions for the overflow say to add a gate valve for the emergency drain. I am not sure I can reach in behind the tank and adjust that valve if it's connected there. I have a pic showing the center pipe for the emergency with this valve here. Would that work? Seems like that would make adjustments very easy.

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OK, the plumbing run that you did looks basically how I had interpreted/assumed earlier. I'm not following on the water flowing within the sump part. It doesn't look like you have any baffles in the picture. But I understand that you'll have the heater and pump towards the other end. Let me know if I'm missing a point.

I'm not certain why they would advise you to add a ball-valve on the dry stand-by. The only thing that I can think of is in case you wanted to do some sort of maintenance, but even then you shouldn't need the ball-valve. I'm not familiar with the glass holes version, but typically for bean-animal or Herbie, you'll want a gate-valve on the primary drain. You'll use this to control the water flow, which in turn sets the level for the second drain and as a result also addresses some water noises. The third should be completely dry.

I know it's not ideal, but you could add the values almost after the bulk-heads in the back and could access if you needed to make adjustments. If you had the PVC run horizontally under the tank, you could ad the valves there. But I think that adding pipe that's really not needed.

I hope that this helps, and, not causing confusion.
 
Use this for conceptual purposes as not all installs are the same. Again, you have limited space underneath, so you may resort to adding the valves running horizontally, OR, adding in the back of the tank. You set-up will be a much simpler run.

PVC from Front to Back:
The front PVC (with gate-valve) is my primary. Skip the second (that's my return line), the third (with red ball-valve handle) is my second trickle drain.



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Here's the other side of the stand; the dry stand-by PVC starts from the right (along with the other drains), then runs horizontally to the left end of the sump. As mentioned, I don't have that going to a sock filter like the first and second drain. It will just splash in the water. Ignore all the other PVC you see (that's for my closed loop).

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Where did you get the gate valve? I have looked around and can't find them anywhere. Also, on the ball valve after the external pump, did you up size it and use bushings?
 
I stopped by my tank builder. But you can try online at Bulk Reef Supply, Amazon, etc. for a gate-valve. For some reasons big-box stores don't often carry PVC gate-valve.

No, I didn't up size and used the size of the inlet and outlet of the DC 12000. Note, the pump you see in the second picture is NOT for the return line. That is for my closed loop circulation. I got all that at big box stores. Yes, you need the gasket that should come with the unions.

My return is submerged DC 10000 II, and I didn't need to run a ball-valve - you can see in at the left in of the sump submerged in the picture.
 
I really want to thank everyone. Patience and persistence has paid off. Today I added fish. I bought 9 from an on-line place (haps and peacocks) and had the remaining 13 already in my tank for 23 in this spacious 180. I think they really love it so far. Here are a few pictures.

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Thanks, not sure I am allowed to say where I got it, but it makes a huge difference for a display. It pops!
 
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