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[Infblue]

I agree when to transition tanks is very gray and species dependent. It often is just a matter of experience and observation in these fish and may be individual in just how and when to do so.

or in my case i transition mine out of the growout when i notice its targeting my small bichirs LOL, or in the previous case, after one of them ate the smallest bichir in the growout...that to me signals that they have grown up and ready sorry for the derail...

 

[Polypterus]

or in my case i transition mine out of the growout when i notice its targeting my small bichirs LOL, or in the previous case, after one of them ate the smallest bichir in the growout...that to me signals that they have grown up and ready sorry for the derail...

I would say those are cases well worth transitioning the fish up Ricky...

 

[Oddball]

From the description of "green long nose gar", I would venture a guess that this is a needlefish like Xenetodon sp. I'd need some really good pics to get close to the actual species. Some are freshwater and reach only 6-7". Others within the genus (and most readily available) are brackish and can reach 12" - 6ft (depending on species). The most readily available species is X. cancila which I've seen breeding in captivity at 15" and reaching roughly 18".

Here's a pic of Xenetodon cancila:

 

[E_americanus]

I'm not even sure that is the case as I've seen longnosed in the wild that clearly suffered a back injury. I agree when to transition tanks is very gray and species dependent. It often is just a matter of experience and observation in these fish and may be individual in just how and when to do so.

In general this practice (Step tank housing) is the best overall precaution one can take to this ever present issue and problem.

again, definitely agree...i haven't seen the cases in the wild, but most definitely agree that they occur (not to mention i tend to trust fellow gar asylum patient richard ).

the step-wise tank upgrading seems to be the best deterrent of the back injuries in terms of conventional captive care, although the round stock tank approach (which i believe phil/oddball uses) would also be effective.

either way, the reverse of what i mentioned in the gar euthanasia topic (as posted by ricky in this thread) also seems to be a good indication that it's time for an upgrade...oh, AND the ultimate example of TRIUMPH of Lepsisosteids over Polypterids...again, couldn't resist --
--solomon

 

[demjor19]

AND the ultimate example of TRIUMPH of Lepsisosteids over Polypterids...again, couldn't resist --
--solomon

i have to agree!

sorry richard!

 

[demjor19]

From the description of "green long nose gar", I would venture a guess that this is a needlefish like Xenetodon sp. I'd need some really good pics to get close to the actual species. Some are freshwater and reach only 6-7". Others within the genus (and most readily available) are brackish and can reach 12" - 6ft (depending on species). The most readily available species is X. cancila which I've seen breeding in captivity at 15" and reaching roughly 18".

Here's a pic of Xenetodon cancila:

i suspected the same thing, but like you said...we need some good pics.

 

[obxbabyinwis]

Sorry for the late reply (2 jobs!), but I did find out what the fish is, an Asian Needle Gar according to the fish store. And he is quite the eater! Feeder gups and shrimp and he chows down once a week on them, but he does share with his tank mates. So far the chiliads leave him alone, they have other worries such as a crayfish with an attitude, a striped raffeal who likes to try to barb them and a rope fish that does the same. I will try to post some pics next week, finally get some time off! Thanks for all the advice, great place to talk up my fish!

 

[fish tamer]

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