What are your KH and GH? A water change is fine but you should not add the pH chemicals anymore. I'd throw those junk to the bin. Do you have crushed corals? You can put that in a nylon bag and place it in the filter. Calcium carbonate helps increase the hardness levels to stabilize the pH but you still need the hardness kits to measure accurately as changes in hardness levels especially when doing water changes can be critical.
PLEASE I need help with stingray! !ASAP!
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I just had it tested and the KH is really low........like VERY LOW. Would a KH upper help? Or can I fix this if I do a water change?
You may want to link this in the stringray forum, you might get some more help there as well.
From what I've read, once the disc starts curling, the ray is "usually" a gonner. If she's still kicking, she's a fighter.
I wouldn't necessarily worry about the ph too much, at least don't add chemicals as before stated. Right now I'd try to keep the water as pristine as possible. Keep up the water changes. If you add salt, make sure its dissolved before putting it in the tank as it could burn your rays disc.
The disc does look a little chewed, so its possible this is being caused by stress. I would advise keeping the lights off and trying to lower her stress level without moving her to a different tank. I'd also watch the tank as much as possible to see who might be stressing her out. It could even be the other ray trying to breed with her and she's not ready yet, its hard to say. How big are they?
I'd also try feeding her more than just bloodworms, they're more like a snack for rays, rather than a meal. I would definitely try to get her to eat more substantial foods - she should take chopped earthworms fairly easily, from there I'd try to get her onto raw shrimp, tilapia, and other assorted raw seafood. If you can get her on pellets, like massivore, that'd probably be good too.
From what I've read, once the disc starts curling, the ray is "usually" a gonner. If she's still kicking, she's a fighter.
I wouldn't necessarily worry about the ph too much, at least don't add chemicals as before stated. Right now I'd try to keep the water as pristine as possible. Keep up the water changes. If you add salt, make sure its dissolved before putting it in the tank as it could burn your rays disc.
The disc does look a little chewed, so its possible this is being caused by stress. I would advise keeping the lights off and trying to lower her stress level without moving her to a different tank. I'd also watch the tank as much as possible to see who might be stressing her out. It could even be the other ray trying to breed with her and she's not ready yet, its hard to say. How big are they?
I'd also try feeding her more than just bloodworms, they're more like a snack for rays, rather than a meal. I would definitely try to get her to eat more substantial foods - she should take chopped earthworms fairly easily, from there I'd try to get her onto raw shrimp, tilapia, and other assorted raw seafood. If you can get her on pellets, like massivore, that'd probably be good too.
SpeshulEd;3700849; said:You may want to link this in the stringray forum, you might get some more help there as well.
From what I've read, once the disc starts curling, the ray is "usually" a gonner. If she's still kicking, she's a fighter.
I wouldn't necessarily worry about the ph too much, at least don't add chemicals as before stated. Right now I'd try to keep the water as pristine as possible. Keep up the water changes. If you add salt, make sure its dissolved before putting it in the tank as it could burn your rays disc.
The disc does look a little chewed, so its possible this is being caused by stress. I would advise keeping the lights off and trying to lower her stress level without moving her to a different tank. I'd also watch the tank as much as possible to see who might be stressing her out. It could even be the other ray trying to breed with her and she's not ready yet, its hard to say. How big are they?
I'd also try feeding her more than just bloodworms, they're more like a snack for rays, rather than a meal. I would definitely try to get her to eat more substantial foods - she should take chopped earthworms fairly easily, from there I'd try to get her onto raw shrimp, tilapia, and other assorted raw seafood. If you can get her on pellets, like massivore, that'd probably be good too.
Since yesterday moring I did a 50% water change and since then I have not seen her disc curl. She still is not active though but the did eat yesterday too. She is around 7-8" (disc size) and the other ray is about 2" bigger.
Should I do another water change today?
I would just keep checking your parameters. If your ammonia is 0, nitrite is 0, and nitrate is less than 40ppm, I wouldn't do a water change. As constant water changes can stress them out as well. But as soon as your nitrates start hitting the 40ppm mark, I'd do another 50% water change.
At this point I'd make sure your tank is getting good aeration and gas exchange - lots of ripples up top. I'd also try to feed again. If she has an appetite, then thats a good sign. I would try to get her some earth worms in addition to the bloodworms.
I usually feed my rays twice a day, and then give them one day of fasting a week. This can make it difficult to keep the nitrates down if you have a lot of other hungry fish in the tank as well. I've started using a pvc pipe to get the food down to the rays so the rest of the fish don't eat all of it before it hits the bottom. At first the rays were a little skittish of the pvc pipe, but now they attack it because they know thats where the food comes from. Before doing this, my nitrates were always high because I was over feeding my tank.
If the other ray is 2" bigger and a male, he might be starting to get to that stage where he's interested in her. He might be a bit aggressive and you might need to separate them for a bit while her disc heals.
Its hard to say if its the other ray though, so definitely keep a close eye on everyone to see if you see anyone being aggressive towards her.
At this point I'd make sure your tank is getting good aeration and gas exchange - lots of ripples up top. I'd also try to feed again. If she has an appetite, then thats a good sign. I would try to get her some earth worms in addition to the bloodworms.
I usually feed my rays twice a day, and then give them one day of fasting a week. This can make it difficult to keep the nitrates down if you have a lot of other hungry fish in the tank as well. I've started using a pvc pipe to get the food down to the rays so the rest of the fish don't eat all of it before it hits the bottom. At first the rays were a little skittish of the pvc pipe, but now they attack it because they know thats where the food comes from. Before doing this, my nitrates were always high because I was over feeding my tank.
If the other ray is 2" bigger and a male, he might be starting to get to that stage where he's interested in her. He might be a bit aggressive and you might need to separate them for a bit while her disc heals.
Its hard to say if its the other ray though, so definitely keep a close eye on everyone to see if you see anyone being aggressive towards her.
I will feed her with a turkey baster b/c It's what I used to feed a ray before. The other ray is a female. I usually only feed once a day. I have other fish in the tank like an arrow and 6 dats. None of which are big enought to do damage to the ray. I have a 9-10" indo which is the largest but him and the ray have been together for awhile and no issues yet. My arrow is 7.5" and is a little timid becuase he is newer to the tank. He never swims down to the bottom. I'm not at home right now so I can't test the water but I will once I get home. Since my KH is low like I stated before should I get some KH upper or is it not a needed chemical? The ray was a little thin to start with, she is getting better now but I still only feed once a day because I don't want to get crap water. The tank has an FX5 with the out take tube pointed at the top at a slight angle. I also have a huge bubble wand in the tank turned right up and two top of the line powerheads at each end of the tank but right now they are turned off until I "rig" something up so that none of the fish get hurt by them.
Sounds like you should be good. Just keep an eye on everyone as much as you can.
I wouldn't bother with chemicals. Usually they're only a momentary fix for the water and then things revert back to the way they were. I'd just keep the water clean.
Also, I would definitely post a link to this in the stingray forum, there might be some folks in there that could offer additional advice that don't normally look at this forum.
I wouldn't bother with chemicals. Usually they're only a momentary fix for the water and then things revert back to the way they were. I'd just keep the water clean.
Also, I would definitely post a link to this in the stingray forum, there might be some folks in there that could offer additional advice that don't normally look at this forum.
SpeshulEd;3701815; said:Sounds like you should be good. Just keep an eye on everyone as much as you can.
I wouldn't bother with chemicals. Usually they're only a momentary fix for the water and then things revert back to the way they were. I'd just keep the water clean.
Also, I would definitely post a link to this in the stingray forum, there might be some folks in there that could offer additional advice that don't normally look at this forum.
Got it. I'm off to my local fish store right now to get everything tested as the master kit does not have everything.
Okay I got 3.5 lbs of crushed coral. My ph is at 6!!! tank is 135g how much should I put in and can I just throw it in on top of the sand after washing it? Also do I still do a water change?
