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who is this petition going to be sent to?


le patron;2498200; said:
personally i do not see why you would want to stop this reptile prohibition. i like reptiles, dont get me wrong, but look what they are doing do florida and places like that! the everglades are crawling with giant pythons that people were no longer able to keep so they let them go and now those snakes are attacking people pets and such. i think we should keep it in the united states, by that i mean just use what we breed here, we dont need more than we already have. once again i like reptiles but im just trying to get people to think logically about this before signing

WOW...
 
I think both sides are rigth;) There sould be some control over ho gets the bigger reptiles and the free roaming populacions out there but I also think that new law is to restrictive.
 
i agree


coura;2499562; said:
I think both sides are rigth;) There sould be some control over ho gets the bigger reptiles and the free roaming populacions out there but I also think that new law is to restrictive.
 
coura;2499562; said:
I think both sides are rigth;) There sould be some control over ho gets the bigger reptiles and the free roaming populacions out there but I also think that new law is to restrictive.


exactly.


part of it has alot to do with income almost cause if you watch shows like miami animal police or whatever the ones with large animals have tiny cages i remember one where a dude had 3 10ft. burms that where all on top of each other with no room. and the guy looked liked he shouldnt be keeping any pets. the income has to do with not being able to take care of 'em and not big anough tank or money to buy food and then the lazy people just let them go.
 
Don't be tricked into thinking the burms are crawling out of the trees in the Everglades I go there for yearly for two week backpacking/canoe trips and Talk to all the locals only a very few have even claimed to see such snakes and out of them many also tell me they've seen the skunk ape thats right the skunk ape a Bigfoot that smells bad And theres always the 40 pound crappie there is a large constrictor or two lose down there but theres no where close to the numbers that people are lead to believe When you see all these pics of lose man-eaters in the Everglades think about how many of those pics are of the same stupid snake that swallowed the gator the only creditable people that I've here of there own eyewitness accounts of seeing large constrictors in the glades area where two Florida fish and game officers from big cypress reserve I talk to at lest 3-4 fish and game officers and at least 5 parks rangers during each trip and I see eastern d backs, American crocs, hybrid panthers but no large constrictors but then again the war in Iraq is about finding terrorist in Afghanistan nothing to do with oil right. If anyone wants to go through what many would refer to as hell your welcome to come with me two sleep in the swamp for two weeks but you got to keep up or you get left behind hell the swamp is easy its the dam mangroves that suck
 
bfhslilred93;2498211; said:
it's not the reptiles it's the owners. I think all reptiles especially the big ones should be imbedded with a microchip so if the reptile is caught outside of it's house the owners can be fined

I would think they would have started that already. They started microchipping RES in Ohio like 8-9yrs ago. When I got mine back then they said mine was the last one in there store without one. The rest had to have it. You would think they would do that to a lot of reptiles since there are a lot irresponsible keepers, but they shouldn't ban them from the rest of the responsible keepers.
 
I've been keeping reptiles since I was 11, and I've owned many species. I see pro's and con's with both sides, but what u have to realize is the impact we have on the world's ecosystems. Tho we ( as pet owners, breeders, and collectors) are not the main problem, we are a big factor. Ther are many species on the verge of extinction due to the pet trade.

Invasive species like: Red Ear Sliders, House Geckos, Lionfish, Bullfrogs, Burmese Pythons, Blue Anoles, And Green Anoles, have pushed native species close to the edge. Being introduced into areas were they have no natural enemies, they out-compete native species, cause genetic pollution, and spread disease.

The Harvesting of wild species for importation has left many populations dwindling, Grey-cheeked Parakeets, Yellow-billed Parrots, Red-Crowned Parrots, Painted Terrapins, Black Pond Turtles, and Black Spiny-Tailed Lizards are all victims of severe population decline due to over-harvesting for the pet trade.

Disease is another factor, The Chytrid Fungus (the worst infectious disease ever recorded among wildlife in terms of the number of species impacted and the severity of the impact) has been slaughtering the amphibian populations around the world, the main cause is global warming, but recently a secondary cause was found, Thats right us. The pet trade has helped spread this disease, to areas of the world that may have never been affected, (kinda like smallpox did to the Mayans and Native Americans).

Think about it would u rather see ur pets happy and healthy in there native habitats, rather than stuffed in ur aquariums and terrariums. I am in no way innocent, nor do I claim to be. The only pets I buy now are rescued or captive-bred.

Over-all I think this Bill will help us rather than hurt us, as enthusiasts of the hobby, It's our responsability to ensure that we keep the hobby going without harming the animals and the enviroments they live in. By limiting the numbers of some species bieng imported, ensures that over harvesting won't eradicate that particular species.
 
i signed
 
RayzrsEdge;2530988; said:
I've been keeping reptiles since I was 11, and I've owned many species. I see pro's and con's with both sides, but what u have to realize is the impact we have on the world's ecosystems. Tho we ( as pet owners, breeders, and collectors) are not the main problem, we are a big factor. Ther are many species on the verge of extinction due to the pet trade.

Invasive species like: Red Ear Sliders, House Geckos, Lionfish, Bullfrogs, Burmese Pythons, Blue Anoles, And Green Anoles, have pushed native species close to the edge. Being introduced into areas were they have no natural enemies, they out-compete native species, cause genetic pollution, and spread disease.

The Harvesting of wild species for importation has left many populations dwindling, Grey-cheeked Parakeets, Yellow-billed Parrots, Red-Crowned Parrots, Painted Terrapins, Black Pond Turtles, and Black Spiny-Tailed Lizards are all victims of severe population decline due to over-harvesting for the pet trade.

Disease is another factor, The Chytrid Fungus (the worst infectious disease ever recorded among wildlife in terms of the number of species impacted and the severity of the impact) has been slaughtering the amphibian populations around the world, the main cause is global warming, but recently a secondary cause was found, Thats right us. The pet trade has helped spread this disease, to areas of the world that may have never been affected, (kinda like smallpox did to the Mayans and Native Americans).

Think about it would u rather see ur pets happy and healthy in there native habitats, rather than stuffed in ur aquariums and terrariums. I am in no way innocent, nor do I claim to be. The only pets I buy now are rescued or captive-bred.

Over-all I think this Bill will help us rather than hurt us, as enthusiasts of the hobby, It's our responsability to ensure that we keep the hobby going without harming the animals and the enviroments they live in. By limiting the numbers of some species bieng imported, ensures that over harvesting won't eradicate that particular species.

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I wonder how many of reptiles here in Florida which are introduced are actually to blame for the loss of natives or did they simply fill a niche which was being opened because natives can not compete with the growing population and the roar of bulldozers building all those new homes,and golf courses.


The green anole the green treefrog need green foilage they need trees,etc not neat lawns with the only "tree" being a cement wall while the brown anole-house gecko-cuban treeefrog fair very well in cement jungles .

I am one of the few houses in my area with trees in the yard ,bushes,etc most of my immediate neighbors prefer cement .
There are green anoles in my yard and brown anoles but there are only brown anoles in the neighbors yard other than one that may wonder briefly there.

I wonder if non natives "displace" natives which were on borrowed time any way because of the of human dwellings thus loss of wild areas.
 
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