Plumbing Set up.....Which way?

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Because if you put them on both sides you will take up twice as much room for the filter socks. They can be in front and behind each other on one side then you can use more media. Also I think it would be better to flow all the water in the same direction rather than having it collide in the middle since if there is any slope you won't get equal flow anyways.
 
Bb66cuda;4551626;4551626 said:
Because if you put them on both sides you will take up twice as much room for the filter socks. They can be in front and behind each other on one side then you can use more media. Also I think it would be better to flow all the water in the same direction rather than having it collide in the middle since if there is any slope you won't get equal flow anyways.
I see what you're saying, but filter socks don't exactly take up floor space in a sump, where the media would be. They'll be mostly out of the water. So saying the filter sock taking up space where media could be is null.

Also, the water isn't exactly gonna 'collide' in the center LOL. I highly doubt he'll be putting this tank on a slanted floor :) I've ran several setups like this, with filter socks and submerged media. Having the drain line below the surface of the water creates a very slow current in the sump as the water flows towards the pump. Water entering the sump can only go ONE way, and that's towards the pump in the center.
 
I like the responses guys....on a side note....i have the large ceramic media.....do i need to set it up so it is above the sump water line too? I was planning on having it fully surmerged?
 
revival;4551673;4551673 said:
I like the responses guys....on a side note....i have the large ceramic media.....do i need to set it up so it is above the sump water line too? I was planning on having it fully surmerged?
Above the water line will serve no benefit, unless your dripping water directly over the media. Ceramic is best used fully submerged :)
 
Without seeing the method in which he's placing the media on each side, there is no way to tell how efficient the flow (and thus media) will be.
 
Why wouldn't you just use bio balls and have a prefilter above it? That's the most common way of doing it and you don't even need to have filter socks.
 
Bb66cuda;4552304;4552304 said:
Why wouldn't you just use bio balls and have a prefilter above it? That's the most common way of doing it and you don't even need to have filter socks.
Common maybe, but it's archaic and inefficient. Ceramic media is the way to go these days. Bio balls and scrubbies have poor surface area and require messy wet/dry setups. A filter sock/ceramic media setup is the easiest to build and gives you the most surface area per cubic foot. Also, filter socks are some of the cheapest and BEST forms of mechanical filtration you can get. You haven't seen clear until you see a tank filtered by dual 25 micron socks ;)
 
And there's a reason folks been running these types of sumps for years. Just have a look :)



 
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jcardona1;4552481; said:
Common maybe, but it's archaic and inefficient. Ceramic media is the way to go these days. Bio balls and scrubbies have poor surface area and require messy wet/dry setups. A filter sock/ceramic media setup is the easiest to build and gives you the most surface area per cubic foot. Also, filter socks are some of the cheapest and BEST forms of mechanical filtration you can get. You haven't seen clear until you see a tank filtered by dual 25 micron socks ;)

There's no way filter socks would work in my application, they would have to be swapped once or more daily with my setup. Here's a pic of my custom 180 gallon wet/dry, I would not say it is messy at all... The main issue I see with the media on the ground is that anything that makes it past the socks/prefilter is going to end up in the pile of media and eventually turn into a nitrate bomb unless everything is pulled out and cleaned once in a while. With media above the water, anything that makes it past will end up being on the bottom of the sump and can be syphoned out easily.

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