redman88;4842200; said:
thats real good advice. Plans always seem to run over on price and a detailed plan is essential for big projects. measure twice, cut once, hammer to fit.
Plywood or cement concrete and why?
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thats real good advice. Plans always seem to run over on price and a detailed plan is essential for big projects. measure twice, cut once, hammer to fit.
kwstas_original;4841815; said:What would you chose for a tank 4.000 to 5.000 US gallons and why?
If I was doing the labor myself I would use wood. Much faster for me and mistakes are easier to deal wiith.
15 years ago a concrete block structure was cheaper for the materials (compared to plywood and 2x6 lumber) but the rough and porous surface required a lot more sealant so I suspect the cost difference was trivial. But on the plus side, many off the available sealants bond better to concrete than they do plywood.
I have never built a poured conrete tank but have done poured concrete ponds. A poured concrete tank would intrigue me but I wouldn't really know what I was doing. I suspect less sealer would be required due to the smoother surface compared to block.
So I guess I would do plywood and lumber if I were doing everything myself. Concrete block if I had a skilled laborer I could afford. Poured concrete if I were completely hiring it out.
At that size I would not be concerned about moving it, only tearing it out in case I was selling the home it was in and a buyer wanted it removed as a condition off the sale. In that case I would favor a block or plywood tank. Concrete block walls are messy to tear out but it's not as tough as you would think.
Space is not a prob, i have a lot!
There's a plan, it may help to understand the size better:
[the plan is made with the plywood idea]
There's a plan, it may help to understand the size better:
[the plan is made with the plywood idea]
I really like the idea of a cement or cinder block fish tank based off of some of the giant cement and cinder block ideas I have seen here. In fact I'm looking at house with two to three acres of land for me to build my dream fish tank and train room in a house addtion that would look somewhat like this drawing added to a existing house
fish room 1aHere is a drawing and somewhat of a primtive Blue Print to what my dream Test cinder block tank would look like if it where added on to a house. The fish tank would be build in a cement add on to a house called a Garden room. Garden Rooms are rooms that are made out of cement but have many things that greenhouses have on them. This fish tank would also have it's own ventation system and the air above the giant 2000 to 5000 gallon fish tank would not mix with the air in the existing house. Also to save money the fish tank would be home to my existing group of Goldfish and maybe a few Bluegills added to it. Or I might get several Blackmoors and Fantails to add to this giant tank or maybe a few Kio for it.
The depth of this Test tank would be anywhere from four to seven feet deep and the room that would be flooded with water would be a Ten by Ten space or Ten by eight space. The peixglass sheet would look into a small ten to 15 foot long add on that would be 15 feet wide that add on to a existing living room or dinning room and would act as a small bridge from the main room to the fish room so that it could be custom built to allow people to look at the fish room from the houses living room. Also new section of living room would be built a foot or two lower then the rooms around it so that it acts as a sink in case a Earthqauke breaks the Three Gourges Dam of Fish tanks and sends a flood though out the house. At least the flood would only flood out the sunken section of living room that would have many drains built into it and would be made out of tile so that the water couldn't harm it if a nightmare happens to the great fish tank.
The fish room itself would not have a air system that would come into contact with the air of the house so that the smelly fish smell from fish tank water wouldn't be smelled in the fish room itself with the fish water and not in the rest of the house. It would also allow the fish tank to go to tropical or saltwater and not give the main house a hummidy proberm.
fish room 1aHere is a drawing and somewhat of a primtive Blue Print to what my dream Test cinder block tank would look like if it where added on to a house. The fish tank would be build in a cement add on to a house called a Garden room. Garden Rooms are rooms that are made out of cement but have many things that greenhouses have on them. This fish tank would also have it's own ventation system and the air above the giant 2000 to 5000 gallon fish tank would not mix with the air in the existing house. Also to save money the fish tank would be home to my existing group of Goldfish and maybe a few Bluegills added to it. Or I might get several Blackmoors and Fantails to add to this giant tank or maybe a few Kio for it.
The depth of this Test tank would be anywhere from four to seven feet deep and the room that would be flooded with water would be a Ten by Ten space or Ten by eight space. The peixglass sheet would look into a small ten to 15 foot long add on that would be 15 feet wide that add on to a existing living room or dinning room and would act as a small bridge from the main room to the fish room so that it could be custom built to allow people to look at the fish room from the houses living room. Also new section of living room would be built a foot or two lower then the rooms around it so that it acts as a sink in case a Earthqauke breaks the Three Gourges Dam of Fish tanks and sends a flood though out the house. At least the flood would only flood out the sunken section of living room that would have many drains built into it and would be made out of tile so that the water couldn't harm it if a nightmare happens to the great fish tank.
The fish room itself would not have a air system that would come into contact with the air of the house so that the smelly fish smell from fish tank water wouldn't be smelled in the fish room itself with the fish water and not in the rest of the house. It would also allow the fish tank to go to tropical or saltwater and not give the main house a hummidy proberm.
