PLZ help my dying fish....

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Bleeding;564357; said:
I just have a hang on back filter, which uses the bio pad and then a regular filter pad which you change frequently. I am trying to get these issues worked out so I can move these fish to my 55 gallon and use an Eheim 2026. I really dont want to increase the tank size until these water conditions are worked out.
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That clears things up. Everytime you clean or change the pads, you remove the benificial bacteria. This means that cleaning the filter is the worse thing you can do for your fish. Every time you clean the filter it has to cycle all over again. Go to Petsmart or equivalent and get anything with a biowheel. Walmart does not have anything of the sort.

Additionally, your filter can not handle the bio-load that you are asking it to. You need to upgrade as soon as possible. Rub the new filter pad against the old one to get plenty of bacteria on it. Run both filters at the same time until they can catch up to the bio-load of the tank.
 
Bleeding;564363; said:
I havent been doing as many water changes because of the bad conditions from the tap. What is OTS?

Also, are the products I am using (Bullseye 7.0 for ph and the AmQuel ammonia remover) safe for the conditions I have?

I dont think this should be as complicated as it is becoming.:confused:
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OTS is Old Tank Syndrome. it come into being on a tank that has no had proper maintainence. NEVER use bullseye or ammonia nuetralizer! they are crap and will only make things worse! you need to do 1 partial water change a week, w.out plants, every 2 weeks with.
 
CHOMPERS;564367; said:
That clears things up. Everytime you clean or change the pads, you remove the benificial bacteria. This means that cleaning the filter is the worse thing you can do for your fish. Every time you clean the filter it has to cycle all over again. Go to Petsmart or equivalent and get anything with a biowheel. Walmart does not have anything of the sort.

Additionally, your filter can not handle the bio-load that you are asking it to. You need to upgrade as soon as possible. Rub the new filter pad against the old one to get plenty of bacteria on it. Run both filters at the same time until they can catch up to the bio-load of the tank.
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I think I made that a little unclear. There are 2 "pads" in the filter. One is the one that contains the bacteria, which is the last thing the water runs through before it hits the tank. Behind that is a filter pad, which are the replaceable pads that catch the gunk before it runs through the bio-pad. The filter pad (which are the blue rough pads that contain little particles of carbon) is changed, whereas the bio-pad does not get changed.
 
How far did you move and what is the decor ?
 
And what were the tests at your old place...
 
Tongue33;564386; said:
And what were the tests at your old place...
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I moved a few hours (springfield MO to Kansas City MO). When i first set this tank up in Springfield, the test were all normal, no nitrate or ammonia, and the ph was around 7.

The tank has rocks as a substrate, a decorative rock, several java fern, and some other plant i dont know the name of but grows quickly, and some java moss for the fry.

I forgot to mention that i also use aquarium salt (this was after the tank went bad at first, another recommendation from LFS)
 
Can you give us the name and model of your filter? Sounds to me like it's not enough to handle the bioload. Did you have all these fish in that aquarium before you moved?
 
Peronal opinion= your tank is or has just cycled and should start coming around.. Strictly opinion.. Also Strictly personal opinion, your fish had a hard time acclimating to the new water and could possibly still be trying to adapt to the new conditions:( Unless you brought them in the 20 Gallon they were in :) J/K i know that didn't happen I didn't drag 250 gallons with me when i moved LOL

I would suggest trying chompers water change schedule, once again strictly personal opinion if for any reason in hopes of stabilizing the water and fish acclimation. IF you keep losing fish , My Suggestion would not be to put all that junk in the water the way it is.. My suggestion and I am no authority but i would suggest doing some research on setting up water chemistry from scratch :) Hence the suggestion would be to buy an RO kit for your house and add minerals and other stuff to bring the water to desired levels..

Once again stop adding the crap from the store... It only is going to cost you more in the long run.. If you want to lift the pH you'd be better off adding some crushed coral to your substrate :)

Once again these are strictly personal opinion and should not be taken as advice from a Professional LOL..
 
And then turn the heat to medium high until tank comes to a boil. Simmer for 15 minutes, stirring ocassionaly :D
 
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