PNT/FRT up for adoption!

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HKN;1001656; said:
for that price it better come with the whole tree

I have seen them for sale for 800-1000$ with a 6-7" carpace. What he is asking is very reasonable.
 
^ Agreed ^
 
M|L;1002724; said:
Please note:

Transporting this animal across international borders is prohibited.

not true atall

Oddball said:
FRTs were never illegal to import. They're covered by CITES II conventions. That means that the proper paperwork is required to legally EXport them from their countries of origin. The US supports the CITES conventions with the Lacey Act which means that the US will uphold regulations as set by the CITES conventions for endangered species. The US issues no paperwork/permits to import CITES listed species. Their sole responsibility is in ensuring that all CITES listed animals arriving in the US have the proper export permits from their countries of origin.
FRTs are listed as CITES II. And CITES states that captive hatched specimens can be made available for export with the proper permits. No numbers quotas have been listed.There is only 1 farm breeding FRTs and they only produce about a dozen hatchlings a year. However, the CITES regulations for Indonesia state that captive hatched turtles may originate from wild collected eggs.
Rumors run wild of people having F&G knocking on doors and issuing warrants/arresting people in possession of FRTs. THERE ARE NO SUCH CASES ON FILE. All of the arrests have been accomplished either at US entry ports or originated at US entry ports when a trail was to be followed to the smuggled animals final destination.
FRTs are not illegal to own. It is illegal to purchase, obtain, or possess a FRT that has been illegally exported from their countries of origin. But, once a FRT is in the US there is no way to determine the legality of the conditions under which they arrived in the US. There are no programs or regulations in place concerning the tattooing or chipping of FRTs destined for the legal markets.
Oddball said:
I haven't responded cuz I'm getting fed up with repeating myself. No matter what anyone says; CHECK THE LAWS. If CITES and the Lacey Act haven't changed in the last 24 hours, then FRTs are NOT banned. The only country they're (regularly) coming from is Indonesia. Australia has banned all exports of FRT. Papua, New Guinea hasn't imposed a ban yet. However, they haven't issued any export permits in almost a year either. Indonesia still allows exporting FRTs that are captive-hatched. They've yet to issue a limit on the numbers for collection and export.
FRT wild egg collections in Indonesia number 1.5 to 2 million annually. If 90% (unrealistic) of the harvest is retained for food, that still leaves 100,000 available for export. Split that number up evenly to the continents (just as an example) and you're looking at 14,285 hatchlings available to each continent. Now, factor in the point that Australia has a ban on all FRT trade and China has, also, just recently imposed a ban on FRT imports and you're looking at an awful lot of hatchlings looking for homes. 14,000 may not sound like a lot. If it were Levi's 501s, that number is low. But consider the number of turtle keepers (pretty high number). Now, take away those that don't keep fully aquatic species. In the end, you're looking at a rather good number of FRTs available to US hobbyists.
 
Basicall you must be able to demonstrate compliance with the Lacey Act by showing proof of compliance w/ CITES and Indonesian law. Then you can import, do you have that flagtail?
 
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