I have used cartridge filters before on a store system. they were a pain to clean, and when it's hard to clean, you tend to not clean it as often as it needs. IMO you're better off going with a sump and filter bags for mechanical filtration. They are easy to clean and last for years.
Pool filter
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Aquafreak;2666786; said:
That's 'cause you've never talked to me
, I've used several used cartridge filter cases (new cartridge of course) after cleaning & testing (NO residual chlorine). These units were years old and from pools and spa's. Units were run for 1-5yrs on 50g to 20000g systems.I understand you wanting to express your concerns but you did say "Don't ever use a pool filter if it was previous used in a pool" .
To see "tens of thousands of dollars of koi and goldfish wiped out by residual chlorine" would be a tragedy, how were you involved in this mishap? And I don't understand the reference " every time"? Were you involved in more than one instance? I'm the curious type, perhaps other could learn from this.
pm0084, sorry for a slight derailment but this may be of value to you too.
The largest problem is the pressure the filters need to work properly, as the filter gets dirty (these cartridges are meant to remove most everything from the water so this happens quickly) it takes more pressure to force water thru them (obviously). So if you don't mind cleaning a little more often, especially with an underrated pump, it's a good choice for a mechanical filter.
Clean well, soak in water for a few days and test the water for chlorine content, if you find any start over (hot water helps).
Dr Joe
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Wheat;2669793; said:
I plan on using my current 75G for a sump, I just had the pool filter laying around and no pool. I was just thinking of adding it for some extra filtration. I would need some big over flows to get 8+ turnover rate that I would want on a 300G. Plus the pool filter can take suction near the tank bottom so I can hopefully collect more fishy poo.
Dr Joe;2669860; said:
Thats what I am thinking may be the best route. I can make it so it takes water from the sump, so it's not to dirty and polish it and dump it back into the sump in another area. I plan to have two suction pools in my sump so one can be for sump water, and one can be for polished water.
I'll have to fiddle with some drawings and see what I come up with.
pm0084;2669758; said:
those look a lot better than what i'm running, and cheaper too. let me know how it all works out.
That's very limited thinking. There is no relation between caution and ignorance. If someones ignorance is going to control their destiny, then no amount of caution is going to change that. Knowledge is the only cure for ignorance; look it up. You can do anything with the right knowledge.Aquafreak;2669019; said:
lol...man, who thought someone would get flamed for voicing their thoughts and opinions.
I was the guy they called when all of their fish were dead. I've seen it happen 3 seperate times. I was also the guy who then redesigned purpose-built filtration systems in those ponds. Not that this matters.
My point was that proceeding with caution when doing something YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT (after all, that's why we all ask questions on MFK) may be a better approach than being ignorant to the fact that there's always something out there that you may not know (again, isn't that why we all ask questions on MFK?).
I'll have to clear all my posts with these guys from now on, just to make sure my experience is on par with theirs. Sorry we disagreed guys... lol
Anyway - good luck with the pool filter. I think the concept is great, especially mounting the intake near the bottom of the tank.
I was the guy they called when all of their fish were dead. I've seen it happen 3 seperate times. I was also the guy who then redesigned purpose-built filtration systems in those ponds. Not that this matters.
My point was that proceeding with caution when doing something YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT (after all, that's why we all ask questions on MFK) may be a better approach than being ignorant to the fact that there's always something out there that you may not know (again, isn't that why we all ask questions on MFK?).
I'll have to clear all my posts with these guys from now on, just to make sure my experience is on par with theirs. Sorry we disagreed guys... lol
Anyway - good luck with the pool filter. I think the concept is great, especially mounting the intake near the bottom of the tank.
You aren't being flamed. We just don’t agree with your assumptions; they are wrong. There is no shame in being wrong as long as you learn from it. Dr. Joe has corrected me countless times. (And I’m waiting for my chance to correct him.) You were presented with knowledge and experience that countered your statements, but you chose to ignore them. For what it’s worth, I have kept koi and goldfish in my inground swimming pool for over four years (filter and all). It was then converted back and kept as a swimming pool for two years. I currently have a 24” pleco wintering over in there.
Being the professional doesn’t make your assumptions right. It only makes you the guy that got the job. The filter or chlorine didn’t kill the fish. The people did. You just made the wrong assumption and got a few jobs out of it. The conclusions you drew were your opinion, not fact (you didn’t bother to do any testing). Yet you presented your opinion as fact to the OP. I gave you the math that showed that your assumption was wrong but you rejected it without evidence that it was wrong. (Do I have to dig up the definition of ‘ignorance’?) To stand by bad information is a disservice to the OP and anyone who may wander upon the thread at a later date.
CHOMPERS;2667588; said:
Aquafreak;2671021; said:
Being the professional doesn’t make your assumptions right. It only makes you the guy that got the job. The filter or chlorine didn’t kill the fish. The people did. You just made the wrong assumption and got a few jobs out of it. The conclusions you drew were your opinion, not fact (you didn’t bother to do any testing). Yet you presented your opinion as fact to the OP. I gave you the math that showed that your assumption was wrong but you rejected it without evidence that it was wrong. (Do I have to dig up the definition of ‘ignorance’?) To stand by bad information is a disservice to the OP and anyone who may wander upon the thread at a later date.
