Possible Backlash of Using Nitrofurazone/Binox

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Fish Room Plus;2900057; said:
If you worried about the meads in the tank. make up a filter w/ powerhead with nothing bit charcaol. Something homemade, nothing over the top.
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The nitrofurazone treatment was followed by a 24 your period of running my filter cart with 16 oz of carbon in it, the cart runs at 60 gpm. If what you meant was removing the meds after treatment.
 
tank125;2900078; said:
The nitrofurazone treatment was followed by a 24 your period of running my filter cart with 16 oz of carbon in it, the cart runs at 60 gpm. If what you meant was removing the meds after treatment.
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If you worried about the meds in the tank, run extra carbon. I have a home made carbon filter, its just a power head atop on a plastic coffee can.
 
omojena;2899934; said:
sory to hear it bro. i had a tig in my ray tank a while back and i too dosed the tank with nitro. the tig wasnt sick when i dosed the tank but within hours of hitting the tank with nitro he began to pant. the following morning i arose to see the tig beginning to show signs of red streaks that i then believed to be septicemia. theorizig that it was indeed septicemia i ran the full course of the nitro. withing 4 days he was DEAD!!!!
looking back and having read your post here is my NEW theory. i think that the TIGs are sensative to the fact that Nitro depletes the water of dissolved O2. TIG's need TONS of dissovled O2 to thrive. the longer i ran the meds the more the was starved for O2. the red streaks werent septicemia at all but the tig showing signs of O2 starvations stress. you know when humans go for a jog or go for a marathon sessions with their girlfriends how their faces turn red? well that red color you see is the blood vessels pumping extra blood to the skin to try to cool off since the body is in an elevated stress level and seeking extra O2.
i will never put nitro in a tank or anywhere near a tig ever again. hopefully my theory is wrong and u can save ur tig!!! i wasnt so lucky....
p.s i think IMHO that is too much salt. salt in high doses makes fish SH*T and you dont want him to loose more food than he has to. if he isnt eating, as i am pretty sure that he's not, then he has less reserves to heal himself. BTW... catfish farmers dip their cats in a salt bath so that they SH*T out as much food as possible before they cut them up for people food!
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Are you sure it depletes the 02?? I have never heard of this. it is true with formalin, but I dont think so with Binox??
 
Fish Room Plus;2900812; said:
If you worried about the meds in the tank, run extra carbon. I have a home made carbon filter, its just a power head atop on a plastic coffee can.
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It is my understanding that Carbon will remove the med, so it would not be wise to use carbon while medicating. I used carbon after the course of med was over to help pull the yellow discoloration from the water and residual meds.
 
in a juruense cat with septisemia i used combo maracyn with great success.... now could this not be because of the meds and maybe a secondary infection? i had a secondary infection happen to me when some dats got real sick....

but yes always use a Qtank.... even if its a rubber maid tote...
 
tank125;2900950; said:
It is my understanding that Carbon will remove the med, so it would not be wise to use carbon while medicating. I used carbon after the course of med was over to help pull the yellow discoloration from the water and residual meds.
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True, but he is concerd that the meds might be harming the fish.
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3744926

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Oxygen depletion in irradiated aqueous solutions containing electron affinic hypoxic cell radiosensitizers.

Michaels HB.
The oxygen concentration in stirred aqueous solutions contained in sealed glass vessels was continuously monitored during irradiation with a sensitive Clark-type oxygen probe. The yield of radiolytic oxygen depletion, g(-O2), in alpha medium was determined to be about 0.44 microM/Gy (equivalent to 3.6 ppm/rad) over a range of oxygen from about 1,000 to 209,000 ppm. Over this same range of oxygen concentration, it was observed that oxygen is depleted in the presence of misonidazole, and that g(-O2) is slightly reduced at low oxygen and at high misonidazole concentrations. Oxygen depletion was observed in solutions of other nitroaromatic sensitizers of widely varying electron affinities: metronidazole, paranitroacetophenone, nitrofurazone, and nifurpipone. Significant protection of oxygen from radiolytic depletion was observed in concentrated solutions of nifurpipone, the most electron affinic drug studied (E17 = -214 mV). No such effect was observed for the least electron affinic compound, metronidazole (E17 = -486 mV).
 
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