I have a Local breeder/fish shop down the road from me that has discus. I would take photos, but no cameras in the store I wonder why. I ask usa aquariums where he got his discus from, before he started breeding them, and he didn't answer me. he said where do I get them, I breed them. I stop going there. only thing I get there, is when I run out of blood worms, and don't know it. hikiri 1 pack 3.99 buy 5 3.49 each, buy 10 2.99 each.