Well.... Lets see..... I've had 1/2 them for a year and haven't got squat yet.... LOL So I guess at this point only god knows..... Cause 1 things certain, I sure as hell don't. I KNOW the pup which I thought was a Mantilla (apparently isn't) won't be ready for breeding for a few years. The other suspected mantilla/ unidentified/hybrid looks like she is prego but then again has looked that was since I've had her. So in conclusion..... I don't know anything.... Except beer is good and Iowa sux (except for the album... that is good)