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The main point is that we humans are by far the most invasive species. Your example of the 6.9 BILLION people is ABSOLUTELY perfect. It could not possibly sell my point any better if I tried.

In 1976 we celebrated the bicentenial of the United States of America. I was young but remember a little "jingle" about the bicentenial: "Two-hundred million people, no two are quite the same". . . . . .

At this time the population of the USA was 200,000,000 and around 2.6 billion humans on earth! The extreme population explosion was seen as the most serious problem that the planet faced in the day! China (the worlds most populous) country even took extreme measure to reduce the overpopulation PROBLEM, which have only resulted in an imbalanced Male/ Female ration that no longer even leaves their 2+ billion a viable population!

Today in 2011 overpopulation is less than ZERO of an issue. I don't understand where the planet "found itself" so many additional resources to be able to support the now 7 BILLION humans today. It HAS NOT!

What has happened is that we accept that the ability to terriform other planets/ moons within our solor system to conditions which can support human life is still roughly a century away. Likewise the ability to traverse space at the velocity required to inhabit (ultimate invase species) planets outside of our solor system that have an existing atmosphere that can support human life is easily a century off.

Given that the human ancestors on earth first poped up around 2,000,000 years ago. The human population took almost 2,000,000 years to reach the 1 billion population mark in the early 20th century!

It took 2 million years for we humans to hit the 1 billion population mark. It has taken only a century since then for us to reach the 7 billion population mark.

This is what is known as exponential increase. In order to just attempt to place this into some kind of comprehensible perspective: If a meteorite were to strike earth tomorrow and wipe out half of the population of the planet, More humans will have died within seconds then EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING THAT HAS EVER EXISTED> LIVED AND DIED on this planet combined since the rise of humanity.

If you can not read between the lines, we have already gladly accepted that we WILL wipeout every species on this planet and send them ALL into extinction long before we would entertain the thought of population control and planetary resource management that would possibly allow for another species to peacefully coexist with us!

Nope, 7 billion humans would not fit into the small area of africa, nor would it be prudent to commit mass genocide, although that is what we are doing by proxy!

The second point is and should be even more important for us to understand. The human species exists for one reason and one reason only. INVASIVE SPECIES! We could not possibly have evolved without SUCCESSFULLY introducing invasive species to the new areas that we migrated.

It is generally viewed as (ALWAYS) a bad thing. The point is that the introduction of invasive species by human beings is NOT ALWAYS BAD. It is in fact GOOD in many instances and is the ONLY reason that ANY human is alive today to post in this forum.

No Invasive species = no humanity
 
screaminleeman;4872818; said:
The second point is and should be even more important for us to understand. The human species exists for one reason and one reason only. INVASIVE SPECIES! We could not possibly have evolved without SUCCESSFULLY introducing invasive species to the new areas that we migrated.

It is generally viewed as (ALWAYS) a bad thing. The point is that the introduction of invasive species by human beings is NOT ALWAYS BAD. It is in fact GOOD in many instances and is the ONLY reason that ANY human is alive today to post in this forum.

No Invasive species = no humanity

seems to me, that this is the only part of that entire post that had anything to do with your original post, but it still doesn't match what your original post says. Your OP states we are the only Invasive Species, this reads not all invasive species are bad (which I agree with if they are controlled).

Are you an alien from another planet? You sure do seem to hate the human race.
 
screaminleeman;4872818; said:
The main point is that we humans are by far the most invasive species. Your example of the 6.9 BILLION people is ABSOLUTELY perfect. It could not possibly sell my point any better if I tried.

In 1976 we celebrated the bicentenial of the United States of America. I was young but remember a little "jingle" about the bicentenial: "Two-hundred million people, no two are quite the same". . . . . .

At this time the population of the USA was 200,000,000 and around 2.6 billion humans on earth! The extreme population explosion was seen as the most serious problem that the planet faced in the day! China (the worlds most populous) country even took extreme measure to reduce the overpopulation PROBLEM, which have only resulted in an imbalanced Male/ Female ration that no longer even leaves their 2+ billion a viable population!

Today in 2011 overpopulation is less than ZERO of an issue. I don't understand where the planet "found itself" so many additional resources to be able to support the now 7 BILLION humans today. It HAS NOT!

What has happened is that we accept that the ability to terriform other planets/ moons within our solor system to conditions which can support human life is still roughly a century away. Likewise the ability to traverse space at the velocity required to inhabit (ultimate invase species) planets outside of our solor system that have an existing atmosphere that can support human life is easily a century off.

Given that the human ancestors on earth first poped up around 2,000,000 years ago. The human population took almost 2,000,000 years to reach the 1 billion population mark in the early 20th century!

It took 2 million years for we humans to hit the 1 billion population mark. It has taken only a century since then for us to reach the 7 billion population mark.

This is what is known as exponential increase. In order to just attempt to place this into some kind of comprehensible perspective: If a meteorite were to strike earth tomorrow and wipe out half of the population of the planet, More humans will have died within seconds then EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING THAT HAS EVER EXISTED> LIVED AND DIED on this planet combined since the rise of humanity.

If you can not read between the lines, we have already gladly accepted that we WILL wipeout every species on this planet and send them ALL into extinction long before we would entertain the thought of population control and planetary resource management that would possibly allow for another species to peacefully coexist with us!

Nope, 7 billion humans would not fit into the small area of africa, nor would it be prudent to commit mass genocide, although that is what we are doing by proxy!

The second point is and should be even more important for us to understand. The human species exists for one reason and one reason only. INVASIVE SPECIES! We could not possibly have evolved without SUCCESSFULLY introducing invasive species to the new areas that we migrated.

It is generally viewed as (ALWAYS) a bad thing. The point is that the introduction of invasive species by human beings is NOT ALWAYS BAD. It is in fact GOOD in many instances and is the ONLY reason that ANY human is alive today to post in this forum.

No Invasive species = no humanity

you're preaching to the choir, as an environmental studies major, i certainly understand that with our technology and medical advances we have greatly expanded the worlds carrying capacity for humans. and i do agree with the overpopulation part. i'm just wondering the reason for this post.. was it to let off some steam from your other thread that got the lock? i'm just trying to find a reasoning behind this rant
 
eatingleg4peanut;4872860; said:
Are you an alien from another planet? You sure do seem to hate the human race.

Dude, I have no knowledge of coming from outerspace, but I have wondered SO often how I could possibly be human. I really don't appear human with my extreme fur coat head to toe.

I think I am more of a cross between a elf and sasquatch. I do relate more to animals than humans for sure! Could have something to do with being caged like an animal after the last time I went fishing, and getting shut off from my favorite pass time in 2010 only to find out that there is a chance of the DNR stealing 2011 from me as well.

I am a seriously agressive individual unlike the extreme majority of people that I have encountered. I do have an extreme passion for competition and confrontation and it worries me that another year without fishing will push me over the edge and result in a major downturn in my livelyhood. Coupled with the peeing in a bottle for the last month I am also not taking the all important puff of attitude adjustment that I require so in order to slightly "get along" with others.

When I finally get to stop peeing in a bottle next month, I will almost certainly be less angry and be able to post more friendly thoughts! Until then I think it best == to take out my hostility over the internet on forum members rather than physical people at work or on the busses, light rail & subway that I use to commute my 52 mile each direction trip to work daily. I get my drivers license back June 10th and will NOT have to walk 6 miles everyday in 17 freaking degree weather making me want to stomp a mudhole in humanity and walk it dfry.

Sorry, until them I am a serious male ******!
 
The philosophy behind the human existence, both in relation to our ethical philosophy and/or our political philosophy, is something that we have created as a part of our cultural existence. By participating or not, we have elected the officials that make the laws and we have empowered them to make the hard decisions. Unfortunately, we may not agree with every decision that is made. So, if you have an issue with the legal process and or laws that govern, I suggest you take action on it if you feel so strongly. I encourage you to start a petition and/or contact your local legislature and get the ball rolling to change the current laws.

Arguing this point on here will not serve any purpose. This site is not really the venue for this type of discussion.

When I finally get to stop peeing in a bottle next month, I will almost certainly be less angry and be able to post more friendly thoughts! Until then I think it best == to take out my hostility over the internet on forum members rather than physical people at work or on the busses, light rail & subway that I use to commute my 52 mile each direction trip to work daily. I get my drivers license back June 10th and will NOT have to walk 6 miles everyday in 17 freaking degree weather making me want to stomp a mudhole in humanity and walk it dfry.

If you are openly stating that you are planning on taking an aggressive stance towards members of this site in order to ease you at-home tensions. I would encourage you to take a break and come back when things are better for you. Flaming, trolling, and being overly aggressive is not permitted on this site. I would hate to see you have your membership suspended because you are going through some hard times in you personal life.
 
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