Pound for Pound toughest fish?

[kevin714]

Guppy, snakeheads have devestated rivers in the US, clarias haven't

I can see more reason for a channa being banned than clarias.

Huh? What rivers would that be? This statment is utterly false. Its this type of exegeration and ignorance that got the snakehead banned over here.

 

[kevin714]

Once again to think a Cichlid (any cichlid), has a chance against a flat out carnivore like a Snakehead is foolsih.....

So let me get this straight you are saying a Dovii is not a carnivore? Or to be more correct a Piscivore(spl?). I assure you they don't eat veggies or fruit in lake Nicaraugua.

 

[kevin714]

Scott - you got that right. As I and many others have stated, a dovii maybe vicious but a channa is capable of flat out ripping another fish in half, a dovii isn't. Snakeheads are born to kill.

If I remember correctly the micro that did that was only about 9 inches long.

How can you possibly state that a Dovii could not ever rip a fish in two? Of course they could. Even my synspilum ripped a crayfish in two yesterday and only ate the tail. And they are omnivores more than a Piscivore. Dovii have a nice set of teeth and are open water hunters of fish in central america. Sorry but it appears you are starting to show boat a few rounds to early and are starting to get caught with left hooks.

 

[kevin714]

Not that I am arguing one fish or another (I still think it is a silly argument) but the main thing that got snakeheads banned was the same reason they were going to ban clarias cats for a while, they have a reputation for traveling overland. As far as the generalization that true carnivores are tougher than fish like cichlids I feel the need to point out that many true carnivores (while deadly) are relatively delicate and easily damaged like needlefish and payara.

Thanks guppy finally some sanity. I agree this is a silly argument thats why I asked for video in the first place. I knew it would drive the macho snakehead guys crazy. And as predicted they fell right into it

 

[rumblesushi]

I would actually say I am winning every minute of every round, just sticking and moving, haven't even got caught flush. Almost all the fans see it the same way

Show me a dovii ripping a similar sized fish clean in 2, I'll believe it when I see it.

Wolves and channas are capable of that, not much else. Piranhas and ATFs are but chunk by chunk, not 1 big bite.

 

[kevin714]

I would actually say I am winning every minute of every round, just sticking and moving, haven't even got caught flush. Almost all the fans see it the same way

Show me a dovii ripping a similar sized fish clean in 2, I'll believe it when I see it.

Wolves and channas are capable of that, not much else. Piranhas and ATFs are but chunk by chunk, not 1 big bite.

Yea sure and snakeheads are devastating rivers in the U.S.

Down goes Frazier. Ding Ding

 

[rumblesushi]

didn't they have to resort to drastic measures to kill the snakeheads in the potomac river? Someone posted something on here a while ago. I know the reports are exaggerated, I find it hilarious they are banned in the US, and scotland of all places. Still, they breed prolifically and are more capable of devastating a river than pretty much any other fish.

I got my right hand glued to my chin buddy, the blows are just glancing off - and didn't you know Frazier retired over 25 years ago old timer?

 

[guppy]

Okay, I am tired of this. This type thread keeps coming up and keeps degenerating into this bull every time. Argueing hypotheticals no one ever wins.
As far a snakeheads devastating rivers in the US, never happened Even the couple places like the Potamic that they have managed to get established it is far to early to tell if they will have a signifigant impact, I am pretty sure that most of the young are making great food for channel cats and striped bass. The one lake that was seriously effected was not because the few snakeheads they found ate too many fish but rather because the F+W people saw a potential problem and it was politically hot so they poisoned everything in the lake. The transplanted fish here that have devastated native populations are trout, bass, and bluegill.
As far as clarias go back in the 70s they were big news and they did clear a coulpe areas in Florida of speckled and snail bullhead and at least one madtom, and made a slight dent in the replacement rate of LMBs in a couple areas.
Like the snakeheads the problem was not well based in science but rather due to media hype.
Back to the problem with this thread, all that is being argued (ad nauseum) is opinion and ego. Enough.
This thread is closed.

 

[Miles]

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[gar b3ar]

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