wow those are three of the nicest saucers I've ever seen!!! IMO Can't wait to see the pups. Is the mantilla a "Peru" flower?
and did the Estrella used to be called otorongo?
No I do not believe the mantilla is a Peru flower...and I I'm not positive but I believe an Otorongo usually refers to what is commonly called a jaguar...
The common name for the Estrella is a starry night stingray