Public Outrage halts states execution of Snake head ...

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The payment for my save Rocky shirt will be sent out in the morning. :)
 
I've signed the petition.

Also, this appears to unconstitutional given "Ex Post Facto" being built into our constitution. This animal was purchased legally, and the government is attempting to enforce a law enacted after the legal purchase and ownership. Killing this animal is punishment to the owner who has under the laws at the time of purchase had committed no crime. He's not allowed to transport it across state lines to find it a legal home, he apparently cannot get a permit, nor can the fish be grandfathered in. This results in the option of killing the pet, and punishing both the fish and the owner. Without amendment, it appears that this law could be found to be unconstitutional as it leaves owners with no option.

Quoted from http://www.usconstitution.net/glossary.html "Ex post facto ex post facto adj. Formulated, enacted, or operating retroactively. [Med Lat., from what is done afterwards] Source: AHD In U.S. Constitutional Law, the definition of what is ex post facto is more limited. The first definition of what exactly constitutes an ex post facto law is found in Calder v Bull (3 US 386 [1798]), in the opinion of Justice Chase: 1st. Every law that makes an action done before the passing of the law, and which was innocent when done, criminal; and punishes such action. 2d. Every law that aggravates a crime, or makes it greater than it was, when committed. 3d. Every law that changes the punishment, and inflicts a greater punishment, than the law annexed to the crime, when committed. 4th. Every law that alters the legal rules of evidence, and receives less, or different, testimony, than the law required at the time of the commission of the offense, in order to convict the offender."
 
I'd love to see this turn into a movement for the legalization of Giant snakeheads outside of border states, FL, and HI.

...but I'm quite happy with the amazing amount of public support for Rocky from scientifically-minded peoples.
 
Wet Whiskers;2897433; said:
I've signed the petition.

Also, this appears to unconstitutional given "Ex Post Facto" being built into our constitution. This animal was purchased legally, and the government is attempting to enforce a law enacted after the legal purchase and ownership. Killing this animal is punishment to the owner who has under the laws at the time of purchase had committed no crime. He's not allowed to transport it across state lines to find it a legal home, he apparently cannot get a permit, nor can the fish be grandfathered in. This results in the option of killing the pet, and punishing both the fish and the owner. Without amendment, it appears that this law could be found to be unconstitutional as it leaves owners with no option.

Quoted from http://www.usconstitution.net/glossary.html "Ex post facto ex post facto adj. Formulated, enacted, or operating retroactively. [Med Lat., from what is done afterwards] Source: AHD In U.S. Constitutional Law, the definition of what is ex post facto is more limited. The first definition of what exactly constitutes an ex post facto law is found in Calder v Bull (3 US 386 [1798]), in the opinion of Justice Chase: 1st. Every law that makes an action done before the passing of the law, and which was innocent when done, criminal; and punishes such action. 2d. Every law that aggravates a crime, or makes it greater than it was, when committed. 3d. Every law that changes the punishment, and inflicts a greater punishment, than the law annexed to the crime, when committed. 4th. Every law that alters the legal rules of evidence, and receives less, or different, testimony, than the law required at the time of the commission of the offense, in order to convict the offender."
thanks for this information... he could very well use this... as a defense... hope something works..
 
BreellaBlue87;2899889; said:
I'm going to pick up my Rocky shirt this weekend... that is if my mother in law didn't throw out my paycheck... I can't find it now.
post a pic of it up when and if you get it... :D
 
srikamaraja;2897448; said:
I'd love to see this turn into a movement for the legalization of Giant snakeheads outside of border states, FL, and HI.

...but I'm quite happy with the amazing amount of public support for Rocky from scientifically-minded peoples.

I agree. I'd also like to see this start a movement for reformation of a lot of illegal fish laws. From the Asian aro, to the piranha (in states where they are illegal but couldn't survive in waterways), to the glo-fish in CA.

Long live Rocky!!
 
Bump for our friend Rocky!!!!
 
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