Pure Superspot Motoro - Anybody bred them?

[Silent Bob]

This is from Jeff Rapps site. I'm no ray expert. Super spot?

Drew

Both are marble motoros.

 

[DREWSMITH]

These are different than the super spot then? I'm new to rays sorry for the questions.

Drew

 

[Silent Bob]

These are different than the super spot then? I'm new to rays sorry for the questions.

Drew

Yes they are.

 

[litigator666]

I have to agree with Aquaman and Calgary on it being a hybrid. Let me dig up a few pictures of the hybrid super spots from Thailand and Tawain. Anders try to dig up those photos and we can compare.

mine doesn't have the lighter spot. Looking closely they have full colour of yellow/orange.

 

[litigator666]

I disagree to some extent.

It is somewhat common for Peruvian motoros to show some extra spotting. Some even look like the ray in OP's post (pretty sure I can find some examples from Raul and alex - will take a look).

Furthermore, it seems that most peruvian motoros have the "super spot" pattern. But it only shows when the animal/s is placed in a very bright tank (fx White).

You will find tons of info/examples of that here: http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?146664-my-superspot-rays/page4

(example)

Also, former member AlexG, did alot of crossbreeding with peruvian motoros and falkneris. I do not remember any of them looking like OP's ray.

Just my 2 cent.

that light spotting on the picture as well as examples on the other thread.

 

[andersp90]

mine doesn't have the lighter spot. Looking closely they have full colour of yellow/orange.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?146664-my-superspot-rays

WC. My guess would be Peru. Like AlexG states on page 2.

 

[Tor-Eriik]

I would say there is some falk somewhere along the line there. First thought was hybrid, and im sticking to that veeery nice one tho!

 

[snake8myelbo]

I have received 2 super spots. And both were wild caught and in rough shape lice parasites etc. If they are hybrids then.it is occurring in nature.

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[litigator666]

Just for comparison, this is a local superspot male that I was able to trace. This is not mine, but asked permission from the owner to post the pics up. It doesn't have much spot as my female, but the closes that I was able to traced.

two pics below are of the same fish.

 

[andersp90]

I would say there is some falk somewhere along the line there. First thought was hybrid, and im sticking to that veeery nice one tho!

It could also be a "local" variation in the pattern. As you can see (in my link), many peruvian motoros have this underlying "super spot" patteren (some look very marble like).

Marbles look very diffrent to the motoro, yet I have never heard anyone claim that they stem from hybridization down the line.