instead of thinking about killing your jag try to save her first. Seems like her gull bladder may be on the fritz and Epsom salt dips for 30 mins at a time
Put down my 7 year old jag or no?...
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I'm pretty sure ill be out for a while, otherwise ill just get a bunch of tiny fish that are are easy and painless to kill lol
I heard the rather opposite through online research. I just contacted my vet and they recommended putting her in the freezer. Seems there's not a joint agreement when it comes to putting down a fish through the freezer. I asked for a euthanasia called m22 or m12 and they had no clue what I was talking about.. I guess overdose of clove oil is the way im going.
Not to sound like a douche but don't you think i've tried? You say she seems like she has gall* bladder, not "gull" bladder which is also known as swim bladder disease. So it seems you didnt read the thread, shes straight paralyzed without any physical injury. Note she has no physical injury its simply not treatable what so ever. There is a problem within her and its impossible to treat without surgery. Whatever caused the gall* bladder disease is lethal in means that she cannot eat. Note I bought this fish when she was already sexually mature, and then I had it for 7 years so shes at least +8 years old.
You seem to not know anything about swim bladder disease yet try to tell me to treat it. No amount of espon salt baths will cure swim bladder. Once a fish gets it, its a done deal. If a fish is to recover from swim bladder then it would be within that day it showed symptoms. Its now day four and it still persists. So why would I keep her suffering?
Sounds good. Ill pick up two bottle of clove oil and a pack of alka seltzers when im going home tonight.
I won't go too much into detail, but freezing actually isn't a terribly humane option for fish. It's reasonably humane for small, warm-blooded animals (though there are better methods), but cold-blooded animals don't do the slowly-fall-asleep thing. They stay awake until they freeze.
Your two best options are either clove oil or anything that instantly destroys the brain. Blunt force trauma or a stab will work for the latter, but that's a bit too much for some, and I wouldn't use it on a beloved fish.
With clove oil, you add it slowly until the fish becomes unresponsive (not swimming, no movement in response to touches, etc) and then add a whole lot. Leave the fish in a very strong solution the entire thing should smell very strongly of clove oil) overnight or so. At some point, it'll stop breathing, and it's best to leave the fish in for a few hours after that to be certain. Waiting for the eyes to cloud is also a good option. If you choose to use alka-seltzer, wait awhile after the fish becomes totally unresponsive (try poking/annoying it and maybe lifting it from the water for a few seconds to be sure it's unconscious) so that it won't be aware of anything.
Don't worry, this method is humane- I've used it before a few times. The fish don't usually show any additional signs of distress, though I did have one fish (badly injured danio) show some brief alarm when I added the clove oil too fast. I think it just noticed the scent. It quickly fell asleep, though, and that's the worst-case scenario- brief alarm before the clove oil sets in. If you add the oil slowly (a few drops at a time, maybe more in your large fish's case), that won't happen.
Be sure to mix the oil into a small amount of water and then add it to the container, oil doesn't like to mix with water and has to be shaken/stirred violently or it just pools on the surface.
Your two best options are either clove oil or anything that instantly destroys the brain. Blunt force trauma or a stab will work for the latter, but that's a bit too much for some, and I wouldn't use it on a beloved fish.
With clove oil, you add it slowly until the fish becomes unresponsive (not swimming, no movement in response to touches, etc) and then add a whole lot. Leave the fish in a very strong solution the entire thing should smell very strongly of clove oil) overnight or so. At some point, it'll stop breathing, and it's best to leave the fish in for a few hours after that to be certain. Waiting for the eyes to cloud is also a good option. If you choose to use alka-seltzer, wait awhile after the fish becomes totally unresponsive (try poking/annoying it and maybe lifting it from the water for a few seconds to be sure it's unconscious) so that it won't be aware of anything.
Don't worry, this method is humane- I've used it before a few times. The fish don't usually show any additional signs of distress, though I did have one fish (badly injured danio) show some brief alarm when I added the clove oil too fast. I think it just noticed the scent. It quickly fell asleep, though, and that's the worst-case scenario- brief alarm before the clove oil sets in. If you add the oil slowly (a few drops at a time, maybe more in your large fish's case), that won't happen.
Be sure to mix the oil into a small amount of water and then add it to the container, oil doesn't like to mix with water and has to be shaken/stirred violently or it just pools on the surface.
I owe you big time. Two bottles of clove oil in 5 gallons of water wasnt enough to kill her, her gill would still slightly move every 6 seconds or so. This went on for about 30 mins and then it went to a slower pace every 10 seconds or so. I then took 24 alka seltzer tablets and threw them right under her and sure enough it killed her nearly instantly. Her body stiffened up as the tablets dissolved and I knew she passed, no struggle and went peacefully. Thanks for your advice.
Thanks, I did make sure I pre shook it and added it slowly. Whole process took about a hour and a half. She stopped breathing from what I can see. I'll leave her in the solution for a couple hours just to make sure shes dead. I'm sure the alka seltzer killed her though.
