Question about what is being call wild caught

[troublesum]

Been watching youtube videos of people catching what they are calling wild caught Midas, Red Devils in FL.

I know red devils and Midas are from CA, not FL. so how can they be wild caught? or are they calling the offspring of tank raised fish wild caught because the fry was born in a lake and not a tank?

 

[TwoHedWlf]

Been watching youtube videos of people catching what they are calling wild caught Midas, Red Devils in FL.

I know red devils and Midas are from CA, not FL. so how can they be wild caught? or are they calling the offspring of tank raised fish wild caught because the fry was born in a lake and not a tank?

I assume you mean Central America, not California.

They're probably feral invasive fish, descended from dumped aquarium fish.

 

[duanes]

They should be dubbed "feral" caught.

 

[dan518]

feral as duanes said.

 

[troublesum]

Yes, i was talking about Centrals, not Calif.

OK feral makes more since then wild caught just like when you have a colony of feral cats in your neighborhood

 

[Deadliestviper7]

Most fish are considered wild if they live past 2 years in the wild or are born in the wild

 

[duanes]

The term wild, refers not only to how long a fish has existed somewhere, but also to the lineage. Cichlids in Florida do not originate there, so the cichlid was either let go intentionally by some lame aquarist, or escaped from a fish farm during a storm, flood or other event.
Just because it has been in a canal for two years doesn't make its lineage any more pure, or that it hasn't come from an "aquarium strain" mid-evil, cyanoguttatus/carpintus cross, FH, or some other suspect lineage (especially these days).
This is why "feral" should always be used, because unless it was caught in a place where it is endemic, there is no reliable way to know truthfully what it is, or if it just escaped during the last hurricane.
I suppose you could say wild caught in Florida, in at least that way, the term acknowledges its suspect lineage.

 

[jhook]

Some of those feral, wild caught Florida Midas’ are simply stunning. A few months ago, a guy on here was catching them and they were amazing. Makes me wish I could make it down there in less than 8 or 10 hours.

 

[Drstrangelove]

Feral implies that in some recent time frame, the animals were under human control. The fish in Florida would fit that description. House cats can be called feral because they are a domesticated species which has been found surviving on it's own.

Wild is a broader term, which in this circumstance, some people might simply mean it was caught in the "wild", i.e., in an area not under human control. The latter distinction is very misleading however as most people infer the terms wild-caught fish to mean fish caught and raised without human intervention in their original (prehistoric) habitat, not simply fish caught in an untended pond or lake.

 

[Rocksor]

Some of those feral, wild caught Florida Midas’ are simply stunning. A few months ago, a guy on here was catching them and they were amazing. Makes me wish I could make it down there in less than 8 or 10 hours.

You can obtain the same stunning look by placing Midas in an outdoor pond, and then bringing them inside when it gets too cold.